# Thor : the Dark World (spoilers are boxed) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 6, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276 "2013-11-06T21:55:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/161 "2013-11-30T17:46:02Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > 1. Re the last scene and its buildup am I the only one who thought that > > that Odin recognised the soldier as Loki, rather than asking about Loki’s body? I think the _only_ ambiguity is the unanswered question of whether Loki killed Odin or simply imprisoned him somewhere, somehow. > [@](#): > > 1. Where was S.H.I.E.L.D? Is this the first movie where they have been absent, since Edward Norton’s Hulk? S.H.I.E.L.D. is at least _mentioned_ in this movie. [ul] [li]After Jane’s first disappearance, she’s angry that Darcy called the cops. Something like, “You involve the cops, the cops involve the government, the government involves _S.H.I.E.L.D_.”[/li][li]Then when Jane is gone again, Darcy is complaining that she doesn’t know what to do, “Jane isn’t returning my calls, Erik isn’t returning my calls, S.H.I.E.L.D. isn’t returning my calls!” Intern: “What’s S.H.I.E.L.D.?” Darcy: “It’s a secret!”[/li][/ul] And then the two most recent _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ T.V. episodes have referenced the events of the second Thor movie. S.H.I.E.L.D. is mentioned in _The Incredible Hulk_ as having developed an algorithm or search program or whatever to find e-mail communications between Banner and Dr. Sterns. The S.H.I.E.L.D. logo is on the computer screen when one of General Ross’ people gets an alert that a communcation from Dr. Banner has been detected. In _Iron Man 3_, S.H.I.E.L.D. is not involved nor do I believe it is mentioned at all. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/162 "2013-12-02T14:04:45Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I think the _only_ ambiguity is the unanswered question of whether Loki killed Odin or simply imprisoned him somewhere, somehow. > > S.H.I.E.L.D. is at least _mentioned_ in this movie. > > [ul] > [li]After Jane’s first disappearance, she’s angry that Darcy called the cops. Something like, “You involve the cops, the cops involve the government, the government involves _S.H.I.E.L.D_.”[/li][li]Then when Jane is gone again, Darcy is complaining that she doesn’t know what to do, “Jane isn’t returning my calls, Erik isn’t returning my calls, S.H.I.E.L.D. isn’t returning my calls!” Intern: “What’s S.H.I.E.L.D.?” Darcy: “It’s a secret!”[/li][/ul] > And then the two most recent _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ T.V. episodes have referenced the events of the second Thor movie. > S.H.I.E.L.D. is mentioned in _The Incredible Hulk_ as having developed an algorithm or search program or whatever to find e-mail communications between Banner and Dr. Sterns. The S.H.I.E.L.D. logo is on the computer screen when one of General Ross’ people gets an alert that a communcation from Dr. Banner has been detected. > In _Iron Man 3_, S.H.I.E.L.D. is not involved nor do I believe it is mentioned at all. It’s mentioned when Tony asks Jarvis to recreate the scene where the bomb nearly killed Happy. Jarvis says something like “I’ve cross-referenced NSA, DoD, and SHIELD databases.” In Thor, I always assumed everything happened too quickly for SHIELD to get involved. Especially if the police didn’t report the portals in the warehouse to anyone, and it just went in as a normal Missing Persons report. Though you’d expect both Selwig and Foster’s names to be flagged so if ANY police report mentioned them, someone from SHIELD would check it out. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/163 "2013-12-02T14:47:33Z")
I agree wrt Selvig, though not necessarily Foster. I do wonder though if Coulson will appear in any other Marvel movie. Of will it be like DS9 and the TNG movies? It might have made for a nice cameo, in the film if they showed SHIELD (Coulson’s group especially) attempting to get to London. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/164 "2013-12-02T15:01:12Z")
> [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](#): > > [spoiler] > The scenes with Jane in Asgaard: > > [ul]correcting the medical staff like she’s doing them a favour by putting new words around technology they probably invented before her species had learned to use fire[/ul][/SPOILER] I didn’t read it that way at all, [spoiler]she was putting things in terms she understood and trying to figure out whether her understanding was correct; she was testing the new concepts against similar ones she already had to verify whether they matched or not. It’s very common when people from different cultures and specially different languages come together and start talking shop; it’s an important part at the beginning of corporate projects involving consultant teams… Client: “\*list of Must Have Items includes ‘reconditioning’” Consultant A: “what is this ‘reconditioning’? Is it some form of ‘rework’?” Client: “no no, it’s when we have product that isn’t right and needs to be fixed, we call that ‘reconditioning’” Consultant team members write down “rework = reconditioning”[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/165 "2013-12-03T02:23:27Z")
You make a good point and now I think on it, the wording could have gone either way: it was the way the lines were delivered that was primarily the problem. Neither the attitude nor tone were thoughtful, as would happen if she was genuinely interested in integrating data, but arrogant and corrective. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/166 "2013-12-03T18:15:46Z")
> [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](#): > > You make a good point and now I think on it, the wording could have gone either way: it was the way the lines were delivered that was primarily the problem. Neither the attitude nor tone were thoughtful, as would happen if she was genuinely interested in integrating data, but arrogant and corrective. I disagree with your read on the scene. Jane only had attitude after the woman running the device sneered at her for calling it a whoosimawhatsits. The Asgardian was being kind of a bitch, assuming that a primitive human couldn’t possibly understand Asgardian tech. Jane was justifiably smug in proving her wrong. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/167 "2013-12-03T18:17:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I disagree with your read on the scene. Jane only had attitude after the woman running the device sneered at her for calling it a whoosimawhatsits. The Asgardian was being kind of a bitch, assuming that a primitive human couldn’t possibly understand Asgardian tech. Jane was justifiably smug in proving her wrong. In support of your point, they also cast [Alice Krige](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000481/) for that tiny role, as she is like the queen of detached aloofness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276.md?page=8)