# Thor's Hammer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196 "2015-03-04T14:27:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/21 "2015-03-04T17:06:25Z")
Thundarr the Barbarian seems pretty pure in his goodness. He-Man too. Maybe Robin Hood? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/22 "2015-03-04T17:07:18Z")
Elan. But then he’d break something with it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/23 "2015-03-04T17:36:29Z")
Faramir is a good choice. For my money he’s the sole reason the race of men was salvageable in LOTR. Definitions of ‘worthy’ are slippery…possibly on purpose. But it takes true selflessness to make it happen. As seen in the trailer Cap manages to just move it - which surprises the crap out of Thor - but no one else can do anything. Remember, Mjolnir isn’t infinitely heavy…it’s magically heavy. It will evaluate the worthiness of anyone who tries to move it in any way. I choose to believe that’s selflessness, desire to do good and a willingness to lay the smack down on evil. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/24 "2015-03-04T17:38:13Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > What about Han and the Tauntaun? Han **used** it, he didn’t **wield** it. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/25 "2015-03-04T17:41:31Z")
Anpanman! You don’t get more selfless than feeding your head to the hungry! ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/26 "2015-03-04T17:56:35Z")
Well, Wayne Campbell and Garth Algar pretty definitely _wouldn’t_ be able to lift it because… well, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/27 "2015-03-04T18:06:50Z")
Paksennarion Dorthansdottir. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/28 "2015-03-04T18:15:49Z")
Well, daddy Odin can alter the enchantment. I’d think Doctor Strange, being the Sorcerer Supreme, ought to be able to overcome the enchantment as well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/29 "2015-03-04T18:31:06Z")
Gandalf and Aragorn. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/30 "2015-03-04T18:32:44Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Well, daddy Odin can alter the enchantment. I’d think Doctor Strange, being the Sorcerer Supreme, ought to be able to overcome the enchantment as well. Strange is only the Sorcerer Supreme of _his_ dimension. It’s not even like Sorcerers Supreme are in short supply, either. Heck, Strange calls upon Agamatto and others for help, who I’d rate as Odin-level or below. I don’t think he’s got a chance. edit: Gandalf was wary of the One Ring; I don’t think he’d rate for worthiness as, say, Faramir did (since Faramir actually passed up on taking the Ring from Frodo). I don’t think Aragorn was ever tested against the Ring, though. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/31 "2015-03-04T18:35:14Z")
Harry Potter, but only after Voldy was banished from him. Nah nevermind, he was still a dick. Neville Longbottom. Definitely Neville Longbottom ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/32 "2015-03-04T18:37:20Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > I don’t think Aragorn was ever tested against the Ring, though. He was in the film. IIRC Frodo offered Aragorn the Ring and Aragorn closed Frodo’s hand around it. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/33 "2015-03-04T18:43:36Z")
Does Mjolnir ever make a mistake? Has it ever allowed an unworthy wield when it didn’t intend to? Could it allow an unworthy wield it in order to further some purpose? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/34 "2015-03-04T18:47:47Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Strange is only the Sorcerer Supreme of _his_ dimension. It’s not even like Sorcerers Supreme are in short supply, either. Heck, Strange calls upon Agamatto and others for help, who I’d rate as Odin-level or below. I don’t think he’s got a chance. Doc Strange has done quite a bit of ass-kicking in other dimensions, and I’ve seen him ramp up and duke it out with cosmics and high-level deity types. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/35 "2015-03-04T19:06:12Z")
Jack Ryan could wield it … and if Tom Clancy was writing the story, Ryan would actually yank it away from Thor and beat him about the head and shoulders with it. And Thor would meekly submit in recognition of Ryan’s innate awesomeness. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/36 "2015-03-04T19:06:18Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Then again, Loki (at least in the comics) has been able to lift Mjolnir as well, and he’s hardly the poster child for upstanding behavior. Was he able to do that outside of the recent Inversion story arc? ---
**Author:** ![Just1Lurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@Just1Lurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just1Lurk)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/37 "2015-03-04T19:13:33Z")
Wasn’t one of the Marvel Zombies a zombie Thor? Could he still use his hammer after he started eating Braaaaains? ---
**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/38 "2015-03-04T19:22:17Z")
Has Magneto ever tried? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/39 "2015-03-04T19:25:53Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > There was a neat bit in the first Thor movie where Thor places the hammer on top of Loki to keep him from moving. > > In the Star Wars universe I would imagine that Luke Skywalker would be able to lift it because he is nobly heroic. Also Obi Wan, Yoda, and probably all of the other Jedi. I would argue that Chewbacca could as well though I think it would make for a more interesting story if Han Solo could when the others couldn’t. > > From Farscape I would think D’Argo would be able to hold the mighty hammer since he is another noble hero. I don’t think anyone else there would be able to, maybe Zhaan. > > I haven’t read these books in years but I loved it way back when, but the [Star of the Guardian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_the_Guardians) series one of the main antagonists is Sagan but I could see him holding the hammer. None of the above, IMNSHO. Simply being nobly heroic is not enough, else 1/2 the Marvel universe could lift the hammer. I’m of the opinion that the number of people throughout fiction who should be capable of lifting the hammer should be able to be counted on one’s fingers. One website talks about Thor’s father, grandfather, and great-grandfather all wielding Mjolnir despite likely being unworthy, though (in comic’s terms) I think the ‘no-lift’ enchantment was only added by Odin when Thor was cast down. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196/40 "2015-03-04T19:26:42Z")
Ned Stark, Danaerys, Seandor Clegane (The Hound.) Asha Greyjoy? I wonder, and I would LOVE to know if Varys could . . . And of course, the great question, Tyrion? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thors-hammer/714196.md?page=3)