# Those damned Podesta wikileaks will be Hillary's undoing. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 24, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603 "2016-10-24T17:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/1 "2016-10-24T17:26:13Z")
… [or will they?](http://www.politico.com/live-blog-updates/2016/10/john-podesta-hillary-clinton-emails-wikileaks-000011) I’ve read through them. Admittedly, not exhaustively. The further down I read, the more I became convinced that this is nothing but a tempest in a teacup, much ado about nothing. What’s more, HRC’s critics screaming the loudest about them are among those least likely to have actually read any of them. Or perhaps they have and are relying on the fact that most voters won’t read them but will simply assume they are filled with their most fevered fantasies about her. When in fact, what the wikileaked Podesta emails show to the shock and chagrin of all, is that a political campaign discusses political strategic agendas, weighs the pros and cons of various political positions, evaluates potential risks, frankly and informally debates the candidate’s best position on various issues and political alliances. Indeed, a shocking set of revelations. I do hope that the next set of wikileaks will reveal to everyone how Oscar Mayer hot dogs are made. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/2 "2016-10-24T17:47:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > … > I do hope that the next set of wikileaks will reveal to everyone how Oscar Mayer hot dogs are made. OMG! NOT THAT! :eek: That \*\*would \*\*be shocking. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/3 "2016-10-24T17:53:21Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > … Indeed, a shocking set of revelations. > > I do hope that the next set of wikileaks will reveal to everyone how Oscar Mayer hot dogs are made. Why, are they made of people? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/4 "2016-10-24T17:57:10Z")
Hillary’s critics are literally scraping the bottom of the garbage can for any morsel they can rip up with their fingernails and then chew. Since they have no message on policy, legislative progress, or any issue germane to the future of the country, this is where they are. It’s pathetically sad they think revealing these discussions will somehow damage her and advance their positions. I agree these leaks show nothing more than typical campaign strategizing. The same discussions probably have taken place during every campaign, ever, and I am sure things are very dirty. That we are now getting to look at the no-so pretty side of campaigning is the only newsworthy thing here, IMHO. Otherwise, a big “so what?”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/5 "2016-10-24T17:59:25Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Why, are they made of people? No, dogs… Hey, it is in the name too, truth in advertisement will be their defense. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/6 "2016-10-24T18:01:35Z")
Wikileaks probably ended up doing Hillary a favor by insulating her against more troubling revelations or appearances of wrongdoing like last week’s story about the State Department official supposedly leaning on the FBI to change classification, or story’s like the WSJ hit piece assailing McCauliffe’s contribution to the wife of the FBI deputy (a state politician in Virginia). I think Trump and Clinton are pretty well immunized against scandals anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/7 "2016-10-24T18:06:19Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think Trump and Clinton are pretty well immunized against scandals anymore. I think you’re under-estimating Trump here. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/8 "2016-10-24T18:07:20Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Why, are they made of people? Soylent Green, actually. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/9 "2016-10-24T18:07:59Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I think you’re under-estimating Trump here. 😉 Is he though? Name one thing that would shock and surprise you about Trump at this point. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/10 "2016-10-24T18:11:13Z")
I know. I was pleased and maybe a bit surprised at how mundane and hell- even \*boring \*the wikileaks were. But you know, I am also surprised to see them taking Trump’s side of all things. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/11 "2016-10-24T18:32:00Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I know. I was pleased and maybe a bit surprised at how mundane and hell- even \*boring \*the wikileaks were. > … To me, that’s the most important thing that’s been revealed by this mind-numbing avalanche of back-and-forth: the sausage-making of policy is pretty boring. And yeah, there will be disagreements, and stuff will be brainstormed and kicked around. That’s the nature of hashing things out. Think of long meetings you’ve been in where people tried to grind out some mutually agreed upon document. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/12 "2016-10-24T18:33:56Z")
Not that I have a vote, but I like Wikileaks Hillary better than Campaign Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/13 "2016-10-24T18:40:15Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Is he though? > > Name one thing that would shock and surprise you about Trump at this point. Trump lost the hypo-partisan female vote. That’s about as bad as Trump’s damage is going to get I’m afraid, but it is hopefully enough to cost him the election. The Republican party may also regret associating with him for as long as they have but the damage is moderate. There is still a growing protest vote in which people would pretty much be willing to vote for a rotting animal carcass along the side of Interstate 10 over any political incumbent. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/14 "2016-10-24T19:01:54Z")
Before this is all over I fully expect him to be caught on live mic saying how rich this bunch of gullible mouth-breathing red-necks will make him with Trump Media. ---
**Author:** ![ultimate11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/49beb7/32.png) [@ultimate11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultimate11)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/15 "2016-10-24T19:18:35Z")
I’ve said this before- not even a nuclear strike will deter voters from voting for Clinton and the Democrats. Terror strike? Nope. Complete internet outage? Not even close. Nothing is going to stop Clinton. I bet my life on it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/16 "2016-10-24T19:22:13Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Is he though? > > Name one thing that would shock and surprise you about Trump at this point. Proof he is shtupping his kids would still shock me. Heard Podesta got compromised via a phishing attack. Lesson: Don’t trust your fucking emails any further than you can throw them. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/17 "2016-10-24T19:23:41Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > I’ve said this before- not even a nuclear strike will deter voters from voting for Clinton and the Democrats. Terror strike? Nope. Complete internet outage? Not even close. Nothing is going to stop Clinton. I bet my life on it. Is that because she’s the best person running for the job or because she’s the anti-Christ? ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/18 "2016-10-24T19:24:15Z")
I dunno, this “Podesta” thing sounds pretty brown. Very suspiciousy. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/19 "2016-10-24T19:27:01Z")
90% of the emails I’ve seen come up are basic sniping between press and campaign. For all that the Right insists that everyone in the media is in bed with the Democrats, the emails show a much more adversarial relationship. Which isn’t at all surprising if you take a second to think about it. The other 10% is someone trying to make hay out of out-of-context remarks or taking an off-color line from an aide and trying to pin it on Clinton via “Clinton campaign says…” ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603/20 "2016-10-24T19:28:33Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Why, are they made of people? No, but it you know the code, you can see it’s a cook book. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-damned-podesta-wikileaks-will-be-hillarys-undoing/769603.md?page=2)