# Those impeachment articles are weak, dude

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 10, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647 "2019-12-10T14:36:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647/121 "2019-12-13T18:29:04Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> I’m saying he can answer or not answer, they can’t make him say anything specific. And it won’t matter anyway, because we all know how the vote is going to go, for the most part at least. I suppose they’re might be a few defections from one side or the other. But I would guess to some that Trump saying, essentially, “I refuse to answer that question because this whole thing is a sham, and you can go fuck yourself” would make him look great in the eyes of many people.

Prejudging and predeciding is what the rebups want. It is the best they can hope for. Why play into it? The point is not to do something impossible. It’s to make them pay as high a price, as a party, for this as you can, if they resort to blocking democracy.

On a day when the outgoing Kentucky republican governor pardoned a child rapist and hundreds of others we are looking at making some moves to protect democracy here, not decide we lost it before we go into the ring.

> **[Kentucky’s GOP Governor Issues Hundreds of Pardons, Many Controversial,...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/12/kentuckys-republican-governor-bevin-pardons-hundreds-convicted-murders-rapists.html)**
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> Matt Bevin freed some convicted of violent offenses, including a fundraiser’s brother, who was convicted for killing a man in front of his family.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647/122 "2019-12-13T18:53:25Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Prejudging and predeciding is what the rebups want. It is the best they can hope for. Why play into it? The point is not to do something impossible. It’s to make them pay as high a price, as a party, for this as you can, if they resort to blocking democracy.

Sure, they want that. Not sure about your meaning of “playing into it”.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647/123 "2019-12-13T19:06:04Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> Sure, they want that. Not sure about your meaning of “playing into it”.

Um “why do they want it?” might be a good way to begin critical thinking about it. Right now is a great opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Sirreal72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Sirreal72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sirreal72)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647/124 "2019-12-14T15:41:46Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> Maybe I’m missing something, but what exactly do Hunter Biden’s decisions have to do with Joe’s candidacy? I mean, if someone has a ne’er-do-well child, that shouldn’t necessarily disqualify them or even have anything to do with their political viability.
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> And really, how weak is it to dredge up some dumb stuff Hunter Biden did to discredit his dad? Especially when your own (GOP) candidate is a walking laundry list of crookedness, unethicality and sex scandals?

Have you ever heard of Billy Carter? There was once a time when politicians did all they could to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Something about the “dignity of the office”. Sadly, those days are gone.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647/125 "2019-12-14T19:13:13Z")

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> [@Sirreal72](#):
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> Have you ever heard of Billy Carter? There was once a time when politicians did all they could to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Something about the “dignity of the office”. Sadly, those days are gone.

Billy would be no problem for a rebup potus, but a big problem for a democratic potus. Right now today.

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