# Those well-crafted non-sappy songs you like... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566 "2015-09-17T15:30:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/1 "2015-09-17T15:30:48Z")
Most of the ones I can list are old ones. This is a good example: > **[Bette Midler - Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most Lyrics | AZLyrics.com](https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bettemidler/springcanreallyhangyouupthemost.html)** > > Bette Midler "Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most": Once I was a sentimental thing; threw my heart away each spring. Now a spring romance hasn't got... A decent rendition of it: [Sarah Vaughan - Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enoPgQwy11U) Got any that really “hang you up the most”? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/2 "2016-03-18T17:56:57Z")
I don’t like “0 replies” threads. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/3 "2016-03-18T19:47:25Z")
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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/4 "2016-03-18T20:00:11Z")
I’m not entirely sure what you’re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/5 "2016-03-18T20:07:33Z")
[Fuck Her Gebtly. Tenacious D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5i4vHsF00U) ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/6 "2016-03-18T20:42:04Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > I’m not entirely sure what you’re looking for. Well, the post following yours could be an example if that’s your idea of “well-crafted and non-sappy.” 😃 The one in the OP just seemed to me to be clever and nonchalant and not loaded with clichés. I gather from the long delay in replies that that wasn’t even clear. Thanks for asking. Maybe we can get some other examples to evaluate… Story songs often (but not always) have the ingredients I’m thinking of. Edmund Fitzgerald, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/7 "2016-03-18T20:48:55Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Most of the ones I can list are old ones. This is a good example: > > [Bette Midler - Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most Lyrics | AZLyrics.com](http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bettemidler/springcanreallyhangyouupthemost.html) > > A decent rendition of it: [Sarah Vaughan - Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enoPgQwy11U) > > Got any that really “hang you up the most”? I didn’t mean for you to have to download software to **hear** Bette singing. It was for the lyrics that I had that link. Bette singing can be heard [HERE.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4OYUpz2MEA) ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/8 "2016-03-18T21:26:25Z")
[Dream a little Dream of Me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4T3tMkjRig) hits the same spot, I think ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/9 "2016-03-18T21:49:54Z")
[Napalm Death - Mass Appeal Madness](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TcmX6WBOE8) [Burzum - Ea, Lord of the Depths](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHrAh6nhPc) [Immortal - Call of the Wintermoon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUzaBro76ig) [Arch Enemy - Revolution Begins](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDyXrAvUlVE) [Venom - Live Like an Angel (Die Like a Devil)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBK4614SQ-8) Hey, at least they’re not sappy. In a completely different genre, here’s one I always liked: [Billie Holiday - Easy Living](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX7TA3ezjHc) ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/10 "2016-03-18T22:16:46Z")
Well crafted and non sappy? You want a list of every song that isn’t half assed, simplistic, and/or sentimental? Why ask this? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/11 "2016-03-19T01:09:05Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Well crafted and non sappy? You want a list of every song that isn’t half assed, simplistic, and/or sentimental? > > Why ask this? “…that you like” ought to reduce the number to a degree. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-well-crafted-non-sappy-songs-you-like/731566/12 "2016-03-19T01:23:50Z")
The “what you like” stipulation may not strip down things as much as one would think. I think The Doobie Brothers What A Fool Believes has lyrics as well-crafted as you can expect in a Pop song but many think it is sappy and dumb. Of course I disagree.