# Thought about Anne Hathaway and The Dark Knight Rises **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 21, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201 "2012-08-21T19:54:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/41 "2012-08-22T17:55:01Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m having more fun deconstructing the movie than I did watching it. I’m having more fun hitting myself over the head with a ball-peen hammer than I did watching the movie. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/42 "2012-08-22T18:01:53Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > What she was stealing from Bruce Wayne was a single string of pearls, a drop in the bucket for a man of his wealth. But at the same time, she was also stealing the freedom of some fat balding guy, by wearing his fingerprints to crack Wayne’s safe. That’s a _much_ bigger deal than the pearls. I choose to [del]fanwank[/del] believe the fat balding guy had threatened or committed violence against Holly, and that was Selina’s revenge. And they weren’t just any pearls. They were his mother’s pearls. That she was wearing on the night she was murdered. Which make him giving them to Selina extra creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/43 "2012-08-22T18:07:45Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > And they weren’t just any pearls. They were his mother’s pearls. That she was wearing on the night she was murdered. Which make him giving them to Selina extra creepy. Yeah, that _does_ display an oddly morbid aspect to Bruce Wayne’s personality. I only hope it doesn’t manifest in other ways like becoming a danger to himself or others. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/44 "2012-08-22T18:17:59Z")
Wasn’t the “ordinary working schmo” in the fingerprint fraud a guy with a long criminal record? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/45 "2012-08-22T18:20:07Z")
I remember now. The newspapers called her “The Cat”. And couldn’t giving up those pearls be potentially healthier? Finally starting to let go of the past? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/46 "2012-08-22T18:23:22Z")
Selling the pearls and donating the money to a charitable cause - healthy. “These are the pearls my mother was wearing when she was shot down in front of my eyes. I give them to you, my love.” - not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/47 "2012-08-22T18:28:14Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Selling the pearls and donating the money to a charitable cause - healthy. > > “These are the pearls my mother was wearing when she was shot down in front of my eyes. I give them to you, my love.” - not so much. It struck me as weird, too…but in the end he does go off with her, and does put Batman behind him. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/48 "2012-08-22T18:32:39Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I choose to [del]fanwank[/del] believe the fat balding guy had threatened or committed violence against Holly, and that was Selina’s revenge. > > And they weren’t just any pearls. They were his mother’s pearls. That she was wearing on the night she was murdered. Which make him giving them to Selina extra creepy. Which were supposed to have broken and sent pearls flying everywhere when she died. With Holli in the movie there’s no doubt who Selina Kyle is. And in every article online they say she’s Catwoman. Hathaway herself says so. Just because some of you haven’t read a comic, or seen any previous film, doesn’t let you decide whether she’s Catwoman or not. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/49 "2012-08-22T18:35:36Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Selling the pearls and donating the money to a charitable cause - healthy. > > “These are the pearls my mother was wearing when she was shot down in front of my eyes. I give them to you, my love.” - not so much. “These are the pearls my mother wore every day of her life because my father gave them to her as a symbol of his love for her. Now I would like to give them to you as a symbol of my love for you.” The movie still blew chunks,though. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/50 "2012-08-22T18:35:46Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Just because some of you haven’t read a comic, or seen any previous film, doesn’t let you decide whether she’s Catwoman or not. Nolan seems unconstrained by canon. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/51 "2012-08-22T18:39:49Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Nolan seems unconstrained by canon. How do you figure? Most of the stories in the Dark Knight movies were based on famous Batman comics, for example. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/52 "2012-08-22T18:47:30Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > “These are the pearls my mother wore every day of her life because my father gave them to her as a symbol of his love for her. Now I would like to give them to you as a symbol of my love for you.” You’re entitled to your (incorrect) opinion, but I still bet Selina’s gonna flip if she ever finds out the full story on them. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/53 "2012-08-22T18:49:41Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > You’re entitled to your (incorrect) opinion, but I still bet Selina’s gonna flip if she ever finds out the full story on them. Who said Mom wore them every day of her life, anyway? They were at the opera - makes sense to wear pearls at the opera. Who wears the same pearls every day of their lives? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/54 "2012-08-22T18:50:30Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Which were supposed to have broken and sent pearls flying everywhere when she died. Yes, it’s entirely unreasonable to assume that they had been collected up and restrung at a later date. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/55 "2012-08-22T18:52:16Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Who said Mom wore them every day of her life, anyway? They were at the opera - makes sense to wear pearls at the opera. Who wears the same pearls every day of their lives? Well, Marge and Lisa Simpson… ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/56 "2012-08-22T18:55:50Z")
In the comics Catwoman’s alter ego was Selina Kyle. She was a loner who often robbed the super rich. Occasionally, she would do work for crime bosses. In spite of her criminal actions she had a heart of gold and looked out for doing the right thing. The relationship with Batman was often written as a flirtatious one. In fact, there was more than one story where they ended up together in the end. In the movie Anne Hathaway plays a character named Selina Kyle. She was a loner who robbed pearls and finger prints from super rich Bruce Wayne for a crime boss who wanted to take over Wayne Industries. She ended up with Bruce Wayne in the end. She was never called The Catwoman, and rode the batcycle. Therefore, she was Batgirl in the movie. Wait… I think I got mixed up somewhere. I loved DKR and I thought the portrayal of Selina Kyle was one of the best things about it. There are a few different versions of Catwoman that you could choose from the comic (I mean the same character written differently, not different characters playing Catwoman). The version they used in the movie, thief with a heart of gold, is my favorite. I thought Hathaway was very good in the role. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/57 "2012-08-22T18:56:32Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Yes, it’s entirely unreasonable to assume that they had been collected up and restrung at a later date. :rolleyes: Who was collecting them? Bruce, as a little kid? The cops? Pearls go everywhere when they fly! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/58 "2012-08-22T18:59:31Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > I loved DKR and I thought the portrayal of Selina Kyle was one of the best things about it. There are a few different versions of Catwoman that you could choose from the comic (I mean the same character written differently, not different characters playing Catwoman). The version they used in the movie, thief with a heart of gold, is my favorite. I thought Hathaway was very good in the role. Yeah, but she didn’t make any cat-puns! “The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt. … And why doesn’t Batman dance anymore? Remember the Bat-tusi?” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/59 "2012-08-22T19:05:11Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > You’re entitled to your (incorrect) opinion, but I still bet Selina’s gonna flip if she ever finds out the full story on them. :: shrugs :: Anyone who dates Bruce Wayne in the full knowledge that he is Batman is just asking for trouble. Heartache at a minimum, being kidnapped by Mr. Freeze as an average, being eaten alive by Killer Croc at a maximum. > [@Anaamika](#): > > Who was collecting [the pearls]? Bruce, as a little kid? The cops? Pearls go everywhere when they fly! Are you not feeling well? Obviously it was Alfred. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201/60 "2012-08-22T19:12:51Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yeah, but she didn’t make any cat-puns! “The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt. … And why doesn’t Batman dance anymore? Remember the Bat-tusi?” Yes she did - “What’s the matter - cat got your tongue?” after she pinned Daggett to the wall with her bootheel. > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > :: shrugs :: > > Anyone who dates Bruce Wayne in the full knowledge that he is Batman is just asking for trouble. Heartache at a minimum, being kidnapped by Mr. Freeze as an average, being eaten alive by Killer Croc at a maximum. I’m not arguing that point - I’m just saying it’s still objectively creepy for Bruce to give her the pearls, no matter how he spins it in his own head. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thought-about-anne-hathaway-and-the-dark-knight-rises/632201.md?page=4)