# Thoughts on Bathroom Tissue

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 15, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609 "2024-02-15T17:00:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/141 "2024-03-03T21:03:33Z")

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Class of '73, and I assume MIT kept them in business.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/142 "2024-03-03T21:06:04Z")

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Did that Springfield Oval toilet paper look like [this](https://www.historicnewengland.org/explore/collections-access/gusn/310687), a flattened roll?

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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/143 "2024-03-03T21:14:47Z")

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> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#):
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> Also 6-ply. This is product available in the Migros closest to me

Oh, a 6-ply roll would last me ages. I budget myself 1 sheet per bowel movement. 1 sheet with 6 plies would give me 12 wipes (using both sides of each ply).

I’m going to shake your hand for telling me about 6-ply paper!

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/144 "2024-03-03T21:51:51Z")

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I hope you don’t eat anything that casts a shadow.

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/145 "2024-03-03T21:53:38Z")

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> [@Tibby](#):
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> I’m going to shake your hand for telling me about 6-ply paper!

Hopefully not with the same hand. 😉

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/146 "2024-03-03T21:54:13Z")

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On an unrelated note, want some M&Ms?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/147 "2024-03-03T22:24:38Z")

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> [@Tibby](#):
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> I budget myself 1 sheet per bowel movement.

Without getting into gory detail I’ll just say that simply wouldn’t work for me.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/148 "2024-03-03T22:26:48Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> On an unrelated note, want some M&Ms?

The brown ones?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/149 "2024-03-04T01:00:27Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Did that Springfield Oval toilet paper look like [this](https://www.historicnewengland.org/explore/collections-access/gusn/310687), a flattened roll?

That the stuff. Though ours was not quite as old as the one in the picture. It needs a special holder, as you notice.  
When I went back for my reunion last year they seem to have replaced it with slightly more reasonable paper.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/150 "2024-03-04T01:03:15Z")

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Seriously? I thought MIT was full of smart people. Why would they use a flattened roll? Don’t they have circles in Cambridge?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/151 "2024-03-04T01:12:39Z")

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Further Googling leads to [this page](https://www.ameraproducts.com/Progression-of-Toilet-Tissue-Dispensers.htm) with a photo of a Springfield Oval dispenser along with an explanation. “This was designed to conserve the amount of paper used in one sitting as the toilet paper automatically stops after 3/4 of a turn and the perforated paper comes off.”

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/152 "2024-03-04T01:23:31Z")

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I guess it was so our brilliant ideas didn’t go down the crapper. We fooled them - one of the first things you learned to do in the dorms was figure out how to unwind more than a tiny bit.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/153 "2024-03-04T01:46:37Z")

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So was this some sort of test for new first-year MIT students? To figure out how to hack the toilet paper dispensers to unwind a sufficient amount? They didn’t do that at the nerd school I attended in Troy.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/154 "2024-03-04T02:31:18Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> More importantly, I don’t believe that baby wipes and those aimed at adult users are really flushable

Once upon a time we used “Septic safe, Flushable wipes”. When I got the septic tank emptied later, the guy commented on all the non-degraded wipes filling the tank. Fortunately none (that I know of) made it up into the pipes leading to the drain field but that was enough to put an end to flushing any wipes and I later bought a bidet attachment for the toilet that works great. Was all of $70 or so, so it’s easily paid for itself in not buying packages of wipes and preventing septic issues.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/155 "2024-03-04T03:45:49Z")

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Basically for anything to be flushable it has to disintegrate after a short exposure to moisture. So by definition any sort of pre-moistened wipe is not going to qualify.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/156 "2024-03-04T10:02:34Z")

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> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#):
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> Also 6-ply. This is product available in the Migros closest to me

I am feeling a bit of francophone-germanophone rivalry here.

Forget about Röstigraben, let’s have a TPgraben!

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/157 "2024-03-15T15:56:19Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s good but very many people do flush them, causing lots of problems.

Plus the trash they generate.

Note that the person who mentioned wipes specifically said “baby wipes”; there are wipes designed specifically for adults. which claim to be flushable (but as noted, really aren’t).

Bidets are the clear choice, environmentally-speaking. We still do use some TP - for drying off.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/158 "2024-03-15T16:00:25Z")

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I use at least 10 squares after I pee. Then I use 10 more. Then I use more as a panty liner.  
And why is Charmin twice the price of Cottonelle?

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/159 "2024-03-15T16:01:42Z")

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Those bears cost a lot. Formerly, the advertising company recovered some money renting them out to the circus but that’s not an option any longer.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-bathroom-tissue/997609/160 "2024-03-15T16:25:36Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> And why is Charmin twice the price of Cottonelle?

I used to avoid generic toilet paper or paper towels, then I tried Sam’s Club paper products (Maker’s Mark). They are priced like generic, but they are actually superior to the name brands in my opinion.

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