# Thoughts on Carol Moseley Braun

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [January 1, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046 "2011-01-01T14:17:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author: ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/42 "2011-01-22T17:28:30Z")

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> [@threeorange](#):
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> In 2003, Richard Daley (who, as you may know, is not black) ran against three black candidates (Paul Jakes, Pat McAllister and Joseph McAfee) and won majorities in every ward in the city, including all of the predominantly black ones. In 2007, Daley ran against two black candidates (William Walls and Dorothy Brown) and won majorities in all but one predominantly black ward (the 6th), where he won a 48.6% plurality.
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> The idea that black Chicago voters are a monolithic bloc that will blindly support any black candidate is not supported by evidence.

Those are true facts, but I’m not sure they can be extrapolated to this race. Daley was Daley, and there isn’t anyone with his kind of clout in the current race.

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### Author: ![Cheryl44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@Cheryl44](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheryl44)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/43 "2011-01-24T02:02:18Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> My comparing CMB and HW is not odd at all. They are both figureheads, politicians, office holders. Nothing more. Neither ever did anything of substance for the people they represented. But somehow you don’t mention that I compared both of them to Jane Byrne. That doesn’t fit into your implied accusations of racism so it gets left out; convieneint that.
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> To use your phrasing - that you don’t understand this is unsuprising.

He set up the city’s first environmental office and got Lee Botts to run it.

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### Author: ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/44 "2011-01-31T15:03:24Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> These days every time she opens her mouth she sounds like a clown.

Heh. It may be bad form to quote oneself, but I love it when I’m right. [Carol’s done it again](http://www.suntimes.com/3577113-417/story.html).

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> “Carol Moseley Braun hasn’t been around for 20 years,” said Watkins, a community activist, prompting a verbal response from the crowd in the church. “We haven’t seen her.”
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> Moseley Braun, allowed to answer later, listed her public service and told Watkins, “ **You were strung out on crack.** I was starting a business on the South Side. I was hiring people.”

[Video here.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcRFfQxMFug)

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/45 "2011-02-03T14:04:21Z")

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More fallout from the “strung out on crack” crack: [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/02/moseley-braun-urged-to-leave-chicago-mayor’s-race-after-“strung-out-on-crack”-comment/](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/02/moseley-braun-urged-to-leave-chicago-mayor%e2%80%99s-race-after-%e2%80%9cstrung-out-on-crack%e2%80%9d-comment/)

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/46 "2011-02-03T22:28:16Z")

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She stuck her foot so far in her mouth, she can lick her own kneecap. What a maroon. You’re the #2 candidate, and you’re going after the #5 or #6 candidate, who’s polling in the low single digits? She had nothing to gain by doing that, and much to lose.

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### Author: ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/47 "2011-02-04T04:39:07Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> More fallout from the “strung out on crack” crack: [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/02/moseley-braun-urged-to-leave-chicago-mayor’s-race-after-“strung-out-on-crack”-comment/](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/02/moseley-braun-urged-to-leave-chicago-mayor%e2%80%99s-race-after-%e2%80%9cstrung-out-on-crack%e2%80%9d-comment/)

Jesus–and what makes it truly heinous is that that candidate does have a record of drug use (abuse?) as a teen.

It’s bad enough as a snarky remark, but now it seems more malicious in intent to me.

I’m merely an onlooker, though, not a city resident.

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### Author: ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-carol-moseley-braun/566046/48 "2011-02-08T02:59:27Z")

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When she was my senator she sent me thoughtful responses to my emails and letters. She was helpful in matters I needed assistance with. When I met her in person she was courteous. I thanked her for being my senator and she hugged me. I don’t have a vote in the Chicago election, but I think that Chicago could do far worse than her.

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