# Thoughts on Revenge of the Sith (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2005, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551 "2005-05-19T08:06:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/361 "2005-05-25T15:47:05Z")
OK, I don’t want to turn this into a Pit thread, but… > [@Trunk](#): > > Except, that’s the thing. . .you DON’T care about the series. You’re unable to watch movies made with passion and vision because you care about CANON and continuity. I made the mistake of presuming to speak for others when I said “us”, so I’ll forgive you if you’re saying “you” as a collective, but in that case we’ve both made the mistake of lumping a lot of people together in this. > [@](#): > > You care about the 8 million things people have talked about between RotJ and TPM. > > You care about some series of novels that have nothing to do with the movies. I, personally, have never read any of the novels. From what I understand, the “official” word is that the novels _do_ relate to the movies in the same sense that, say, AOTC relates to TESB; there may not be a direct continuity, but there is some connection and some recurring characters, and (correct me if I’m wrong) the novels are considered “Officially” correct unless something in the films supercedes them. As part of that “official” universe, the novels are certainly part of the series of stories as a whole. (That being said, I have to reiterate that I have never read any of the novels. I think I only ever read maybe three of the comic books when I was a kid and that was during the time between TESB and ROTJ.) If some people _do_ care about the overall continuity and harmony with the novels, that’s their prerogative but they _do_ care about the series, enough so that they are willing to buy and read novels about it. I’d say they care about it much more than I do. > [@](#): > > You care about being at the first screening. I cared about being at the first screening for a lot of movies; Spider-Man 2, the entire LOTR series, and pretty much any “blockbuster” movie that has had a midnight screening. It’s kind of a tradition and it’s fun. I know that only the diehard fans tend to go to those things, so you know that they’re going to be respectful and not disruptive. > [@](#): > > You care about “droid amnesia” and mitichloroids and whether Darth Vader would yell “yippee” and whether the light passing through Yoda’s ears is translucent enough. You care about finding the broadest possible brush to paint fans of Star Wars with, apparently. Someone mentioned that the CG people did a great job on Yoda, even getting the light filtering through the skin of his ears. That was a positive note and had nothing to do with any kind of Star Wars nerdiness from what I read. Some people thought it seemed bizarre to think that the evil Darth Vader would be the kind of kid that would yell “yippee”; I suppose they assumed that he would have been more of a “Damien” type of kid. Whatever. It didn’t bother me that much, and it probably didn’t bother most of the Star Wars fans. Some people care about the midichlorian aspect because it’s the given explanation for the Force and the people who can use the Force to varying degrees, and the Force one of the central elements of the entire series. How can you expect Star Wars fans to NOT care about that? Droid amnesia? Well, some people just want to figure out why the droids and the people who knew the droids acted the way that they did in the OT; they’re hoping to find an explanation that _preserves_ the integrity of all of the movies, for the most part. > [@](#): > > Worst of all, you care about upholding the recent movies to an impossible of standard of your worship of the first three, not the first three themselves. > > The _series_, you don’t care about. You may have a point about the impossible standard, a standard that the OT movies themselves don’t really reach. In my opinion, TESB was by far the most enjoyable of the series; it doesn’t have the great SFX of 1-3, but it was a _lot_ of fun to watch, and it made me want more. I’m not sure what you mean when you say that “the series, you don’t care about.” I’m guessing that you mean that the people that you’re lumping together only care about a mythical standard born of nostalgia and not about the actual series of movies; if so, you’re making a pretty big assumption about a lot of people and what they care about. > [@](#): > > You go watch Phantom again. EVERYTHING people hated in that movie was present in the OT and everything we liked about the OT was better in Phantom. I’ve never seen such a blatant example of group-think as when the first dork walked out of Phantom menace, and went “well, that sucked” and it spread like a virus. Everything was better in TPM? Well, the SFX was better, the fight choreography was better, the dialogue was probably equal, but in my opinion the story was not better, and the intangible sense of chemistry between the lead actors was absent. You probably have noticed that I and many others have been lamenting the lack of that chemistry. Some of us are trying to figure out why it’s not there. Is it the dialogue writing? I don’t think so, not so much because the dialogue wasn’t all that much better or worse than the OT. Was it the direction? Maybe. TESB wasn’t directed by Lucas. Was it the overall story? I think it was, partly. Was it the actors? Again, perhaps so. I think Han and Leia’s love story was much more believable and compelling than anything that happened between Anakin and Padme, and part of that has to do with Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher just _clicking_, especially in TESB. _That’s_ what I miss about the OT, what I think is really lacking in episodes 1-3. The rest is, admittedly, nitpicky stuff _but none of the nitpicky stuff made me think that episodes 1-3 were bad movies._ In fact, I think I said earlier that they were good movies, just not great ones. Get off your high horse already. If you just think that Star Wars fans tend to be nerdy, just say so and get over it. I think Star Trek fans are the biggest nerds in the world, but I don’t feel compelled to go into Star Trek threads and tell them all that they’re idiots for liking a series where all of the aliens pretty much look the same except they have different forehead wrinkles. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/362 "2005-05-25T16:15:37Z")
> [@Waverly](#): > > People with burns do not die from failure to skin-breath oxygen. Shock and infection are the primary concerns. I believe severe burn victims also have trouble maintaining body temperature. > [@Cuckoorex](#): > > I think Han and Leia’s love story was much more believable and compelling than anything that happened between Anakin and Padme, and part of that has to do with Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher just clicking, especially in TESB. That’s because Han and Mrs Solo weren’t all sappy like Padmakin. Han was so cool he didn’t need to bust out the cornball lines (Han I love you! - I know!). While Anakin is all whiny and clingy, Han spends most of ANH and ESB pulling Leias cinnebuns/pigtails. And that’s kind of the point. Anakins whole problem is that he’s posessive and clingy. Lern to let go he must. He may be a Jedi but emotionally he’s still a child and that is his downfall. As for the whole Old vs New movies, well, none of this stuff is Citizen Kane. I don’t want to nitpick every possible plot hole or technology gap. I can overlook Lucas bashing us over the head with “continuity” (for example, it would have been fine for Chewbacca to just be floating in the background, not “Hey thanks Chewy!..Se ya in 20 years!”). I just want to see huge space battles and guys with lightsabers slashing and hacking at armies of robots and stormtroopers. Oh and Palpatine just HAD to throw mitachlorians in there again! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/363 "2005-05-25T21:26:42Z")
I just want to go all “Jeff SpicolI” here and say how great I thought it was that the Jedi Temple had these four giant [doobies](http://www.starwarsfan.org/prequels/news/pics/sotg6%20pics/Jedi%20Temple%20Shots.jpg) sticking out of the roof. And I had to read the entire thread before I did, so I could be sure nobody else had already said it. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![cppguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@cppguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cppguy)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/364 "2005-05-25T21:30:48Z")
Of course it took less time to finish the second Death Star–right after dissolving the Senate, the Emperor dissolved the unions. [rimshot] ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/365 "2005-05-25T21:31:19Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > IAnakins whole problem is that he’s posessive and clingy. Lern to let go he must. He may be a Jedi but emotionally he’s still a child and that is his downfall. What’s his face is also a much lower caliber actor than Ford. Mix that with sappy dialog, and it’s a recipe for disaster. I can’t help but think they could have cast a better Anakin. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/366 "2005-05-25T21:38:28Z")
Saw it today, finally. Overall, the movie felt flat. The acting, especially. The switching back and forth between the action bits and the slow bits was a bit annoying. General Grievous was vastly overrated as was the hands-lopping-off of Dooku. When Palpatine got his Mace Windu Jedi makeover, he looked like he was a resident of Frog Island with that huge flappy neck. Also, Palpatine laughed way too much even though he was evil. The Darth Vader “Noooooooo!” moment was really stupid. The SFX were great and I enjoyed the lightsaber battles. Overall, I’d give it a 7. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/367 "2005-05-25T21:50:12Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > Heeereeere’s a question. Did anyone, anyone at all, not think that the “Noooooooooooo!” moment was either silly, stupid, lame, or gay\*? -Joe \*apologies to our homosexual bretheren, but you know what I mean ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/368 "2005-05-25T21:53:13Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Did anyone, anyone at all, not think that the “Noooooooooooo!” moment was either silly, stupid, lame, or gay\*? Look at the post above yours. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/369 "2005-05-25T21:54:28Z")
Hell, why not have him drop to his knees, switch to an overhead shot, and have rain falling in his face. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/370 "2005-05-25T22:24:48Z")
I, of course, was not at all pleased by the end of Dooku. I think my inner monologue ran like this: “Aha! He’s crushed Obi-Wan under that giant metallic thing! … …Now Anakin’s gonna get another beat down and the Emporer’s going to help him… … …uh… … …did my hands just get chopped off? … … …certainly they’re not going to kill him so soo–…[sub]grumble[/sub]” At this point, it didn’t help that my friend started whispering to me the lines from Austin Powers. “Not the time to lose one’s head…that’s not the way to get ahead in life…it’s a shame he wasn’t more headstrong…” And why wasn’t Obi-Wan more seriously hurt in that scene? It looked like his lower body was completely crushed. Overall, I rank it 3rd. ANH, ESB, ROTS, TPM, AOTC. My favorite line was when Palpatine started shouting “ULTIMATE POWERRRRR!!!” while attacking Windu with Force Lightning. He knew he’d won. (How can anyone watch that scene and think Palpatine didn’t deliberately throw his match with Windu!!!") ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/371 "2005-05-25T22:28:24Z")
You know, the problem with the prequels goes much deeper than wooden acting, or bad storytelling, or a lack of internal consistency. Lucas is taking a story that features political intrigue culminating in a dictator rising to power, a protagonist falling from grace and betraying all of his friends, and a small-scale genocide. That ain’t kids’ movie material, but that’s the way it’s being done. The one thing that wasn’t entirely clear to me was why Palpatine showed up to rescue Anakin. It’s not like he seems to be particularly attached to any of his apprentices at other times, so why now? Was it just cause he didn’t have a backup ready? ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/372 "2005-05-25T22:36:03Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Heeereeere’s a question. > > Did anyone, anyone at all, not think that the “Noooooooooooo!” moment was either silly, stupid, lame, or gay\*? I didn’t. I thought the whole Force-tantrum was very well done and creepy on every level. And then Vader’s bursting out of the table like Frankenstein’s monster, and shouting “NOOOOO!” was exactly the right thing to do in the climax of a big, melodramatic, overblown space opera. It’s no more silly or “gay” than the Death Star exploding. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/373 "2005-05-25T22:40:05Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > Was it just cause he didn’t have a backup ready? That’d be my guess. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/374 "2005-05-25T22:50:21Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > The one thing that wasn’t entirely clear to me was why Palpatine showed up to rescue Anakin. It’s not like he seems to be particularly attached to any of his apprentices at other times, so why now? Because he’s The Chosen One[sup]TM[/sup], more powerful in The Force[sup]TM[/sup] than anyone else previously? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/375 "2005-05-25T23:06:55Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > I was also reminded of another line from the originals that doesn’t quite fit with the prequels: “I haven’t gone by the name of Obi-Wan since before you were born”. Yes he has, and it seems a strange thing to lie about. I think that it fits perfectly, and that the events in _ROTS_ add a certain amount of nuance to the line. Remember how Sir Alec delivered the line? “I haven’t gone by the name of Obi-Wan since, oh before you were born.” Why did he drop the name “Obi-Wan?” Because the handful of Jedi that survived the purge were in hiding. What’s he going to say to Luke? “I haven’t gone by the name of Obi-Wan since your father helped the Emperor slaughter almost everyone in the Order. That was a day or so before you were born, by the way.” [Listen to the exchange](http://www.earthstation1.com/MovieWavFiles/longtime.wav), knowing that Luke’s daddy is the reason Obi-Wan has spent the last 20 years hiding out on a rock. Perfect! Same with Tarkin’s “Surely he must be dead by now.” It’s not just because he’s old that he “must be dead.” It’s because he’s a Jedi, and the Empire’s #1 rule is Jedi must die. Someone must have gotten to him. > [@ultrafilter](#): > > The one thing that wasn’t entirely clear to me was why Palpatine showed up to rescue Anakin. It’s not like he seems to be particularly attached to any of his apprentices at other times, so why now? Was it just cause he didn’t have a backup ready? That, and that Anakin was apparently born and bred to be strong in the Force, and they’ve just killed off nearly all the other Force-sensitives, so pickings are slim for a new pupil to corrupt. Even if you regard the “midichlorian” thing as heresy, the idea that the Skywalker line is especially strong in the Force was established in the original trilogy. > [@](#): > > LEIA: You have a power I don’t understand and could never have. > > LUKE: You’re wrong, Leia. You have that power too. In time you’ll learn to use it as I have. The Force is strong in my family. My father has it… I have it… and my sister has it. This is another reason I don’t mind the whole “Leia remembers her mother” thing. What does she remember? “Images… Feelings…” In the context of a conversation in which Luke tells Leia she is Force sensitive but doesn’t know it, this _works_. She “couldn’t possibly” remember her mother in the same way that Anakin “couldn’t possibly” have “images and feelings” about Padme’s death. No problem. (Besides which, it was better for the story to kill Padme off in childbirth after having her crushed by Vader, instead of giving up one kid and raising the daughter in hiding for a year or two before falling down the stairs or something.) ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_Chuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/76d3ee/32.png) [@Patty\_Chuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_Chuck)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/376 "2005-05-25T23:09:24Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > You know, the problem with the prequels goes much deeper than wooden acting, or bad storytelling, or a lack of internal consistency. Lucas is taking a story that features political intrigue culminating in a dictator rising to power, a protagonist falling from grace and betraying all of his friends, and a small-scale genocide. That ain’t kids’ movie material, but that’s the way it’s being done. > > The one thing that wasn’t entirely clear to me was why Palpatine showed up to rescue Anakin. It’s not like he seems to be particularly attached to any of his apprentices at other times, so why now? Was it just cause he didn’t have a backup ready? So, er… maybe they’re not kids’ films then. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/377 "2005-05-25T23:13:55Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Because he’s The Chosen One[sup]TM[/sup], more powerful in The Force[sup]TM[/sup] than anyone else previously? Good possibility. And it ties into speculation that Darths Maul and (whatever kind of a Darth Dooku was) were mere place-holders while he waited for his custom-made apprentice to be trained up and ready to turn. Meanwhile, _am_ I the only one who thought the roof of the Jedi Temple was designed to appeal to the Jay and Silent Bob types? ---
**Author:** ![Crandolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Crandolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crandolph)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/378 "2005-05-25T23:26:41Z")
Anytime anyone has to reach to supposition or fandom-based novels to explain apparent inconsistencies in a story, it’s a sign that the storyteller did a bad job. When I go to see a movie, I don’t want to have to have read supplemental materials or use my own imagination to fill in suppositional backstory as to why things don’t make apparent sense. I have no problem suspending my credulity for a fictional realm if things make internal sense within it, but when you start ignoring your own rules left and right I lose interest. I’ll stick with the contention that characters and the level of technology gain and lose abilities just as its convenient to move plot along. Why is Yoda hanging on to anything with his fingernails if he can, for all intents and purposes, levitate, leap and use telekinesis when convenient? Why is being 3 feet higher than someone a huge tactical swordfighting advantage for people who have just been leaping 40 ft in the air? Why is a cyborg that’s mostly machine hunched over and coughing? Why is death in childbirth a concern with this level of technology? Why do we send human infantry against giant robotic war machines piloted by droids? Why do you build a whole mystique around an order of people who have a 6th sense and then have all but one of them conveniently lose it when you need them assassinated? The missing senator has a homing device, and no one else in the series of movies has been using one? How many times would that have made sense? Things like that just don’t make sense within the bounds of the created universe and turn me off to the story. It’s evident that some of the new powers we see in the past 3 movies are simply because CGI made them possible. Some of the characters and scenes are just there for video games and action figures. If you say that the function of this movie was to catch us up to Ep IV, you can’t make twins out of seperated siblings who were supposed to be a few years apart. Throw in things like memory wipes and the like as convenient to explain things away… just very poor storytelling. The level of dialogue, as both written and acted, was so mind-bogglingly poor that I find it hard to believe anyone would find it acceptable for a big-budget Hollywood film. People at the screening I was at were outright laughing at some of the serious scenes in this one. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/379 "2005-05-25T23:28:21Z")
Dude! Giant Force spliffs! Awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551/380 "2005-05-25T23:39:01Z")
> [@cppguy](#): > > Of course it took less time to finish the second Death Star–right after dissolving the Senate, the Emperor dissolved the unions. [rimshot] BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA! Seriously, though… I noticed something interesting. At the end of RotS, we see Palpatine and Vader looking out the window at the under-construction Death Star. The just-started DS appears as a **hollow, spherical frame** , upon which the rest of it will be built. However, in RotJ, we see a **solid, spherical construct with big chunks missing** , lacking the complete outer framework (at least as far as I can tell). It appears to me that the first Death Star was built in-place, piece by piece. This was like building a house by putting up the frame, and then adding the interior and exterior details. The second Death Star was built using modular construction techniques. Rather like building a house by assembling each large component off-site, and then dropping each **complete section** into place and connecting them to the sections already in place. The modular technique would allow various subsections to be built elsewhere and then transported to Endor and fitted into place, meaning that many, many components could be built simultaneously at different locations, with the result being **faster construction** Just a thought. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-revenge-of-the-sith-unboxed-spoilers/304551.md?page=20)