[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]
Also, Zack Johnson said Jesus was on his shoulder at the end of the round. Fuck him with a trashcan.
Mr. Johnson, not Jesus.
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I agree. Man, did that ever sound goody two=shoe e and hokey. Made me cringe, gnash my teeth, and write that idiot off.
However, God is my Co-Pilot.
[QUOTE=Ring]
I usually like to see the big names win the majors, (it still bothers me that Mize and Tway beat Norman), but any tournament that Tiger doesn’t win is a joy. I’m so tired of his arrogance and what he did to Fuzzy that I don’t think I’ll ever like the guy.
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Uh, Tiger didn’t do anything to Fuzzy. Nothing at all. IIRC, he defended him. Fuzzy’s stupidity did him in all by himself. He was toast regardless of what Tiger ever did.
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]
Also, Zack Johnson said Jesus was on his shoulder at the end of the round. Fuck him with a trashcan.
Mr. Johnson, not Jesus.
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I don’t have a problem with someone expressing their faith - whatever religion they follow. I may not agree with them but I like living in a place where they have that right..
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]
Uh, Tiger didn’t do anything to Fuzzy. Nothing at all. IIRC, he defended him. Fuzzy’s stupidity did him in all by himself. He was toast regardless of what Tiger ever did.
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I read many articles at the time about how Tiger wouldn’t accept his apology for a very long time. Basically as I remember it Tiger along with the press hung Zoeller out to dry.
Tiger may very well have said what your quote says he said, but it took a long time for him to say it. I also don’t remember anything like, "That little boy is driving well and he’s putting well……”, being said at all.
Where’d you get your cite?
[QUOTE=Ring]
I read many articles at the time about how Tiger wouldn’t accept his apology for a very long time. Basically as I remember it Tiger along with the press hung Zoeller out to dry.
Tiger may very well have said what your quote says he said, but it took a long time for him to say it. I also don’t remember anything like, "That little boy is driving well and he’s putting well……”, being said at all.
Where’d you get your cite?
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Wikipedia.
Why is it Tigers problem? Fuzzy said the stupid stuff. Why do you think it is incumbent on Tiger to solve the problem Fuzzy created?
To believe what you said
is incredible. Fuzzy initiated it and yet you believe it is Tiger’s fault? Incredible. And incredibly stupid.
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]
Wikipedia.
Why is it Tigers problem? Fuzzy said the stupid stuff. Why do you think it is incumbent on Tiger to solve the problem Fuzzy created?
To believe what you said is incredible. Fuzzy initiated it and yet you believe it is Tiger’s fault? Incredible. And incredibly stupid.
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Wikipedia eh? Now it all makes some sense. Do you believe everything you read at Wikipedia? I suggest you find some reliable cite like Golfdigest and list you’re sources from now on. Maybe then you wouldn’t come across like such a BSer. Fuzzy wasn’t a nasty guy, he maybe wasn’t as sensitive as you, and he certainly didn’t say what your pseudo cite said he said. But, regardless, he didn’t mean anything by what he did say. Just ask Vijay.
[QUOTE=Ring]
Wikipedia eh? Now it all makes some sense. Do you believe everything you read at Wikipedia? I suggest you find some reliable cite like Golfdigest and list you’re sources from now on. Maybe then you wouldn’t come across like such a BSer. Fuzzy wasn’t a nasty guy, he maybe wasn’t as sensitive as you, and he certainly didn’t say what your pseudo cite said he said. But, regardless, he didn’t mean anything by what he did say. Just ask Vijay.
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http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=12464
Just ask the fucking camera.
And explain to me why this is Tiger’s problem?
[QUOTE=Ring]
Wikipedia eh? Now it all makes some sense. Do you believe everything you read at Wikipedia? I suggest you find some reliable cite like Golfdigest and list you’re sources from now on. Maybe then you wouldn’t come across like such a BSer. Fuzzy wasn’t a nasty guy, he maybe wasn’t as sensitive as you, and he certainly didn’t say what your pseudo cite said he said. But, regardless, he didn’t mean anything by what he did say. Just ask Vijay.
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Quoting from the Atlanta Constitution 21 April 1997:
Damned electronic marvels. 
[QUOTE=Ring]
I’m just glad Goosen lost. What a chicken shit…tees of on the 13th with an iron and plays it safe with Tiger two strokes off and right behind him. I used to like the guy because of his coolness under fire and overall imperturbability, but not anymore. After that show of timidity he sucks canal water.
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I sort of agree. I think the combination of Woods and the huge amount of money has mechanized golf. When Tiger is in the tournement a lot of players, including the best of the rest, play for second place at best. After all, you can make a damned good living by finishing regularly in the top 20.
A guy I golf with pointed out, and then I took notice of it, the pros are leaving their putts short a lot more than they used to. Former pro golfer Curtis Strange pointed out the same thing in an interview. His thought was that they are guarding against three putts. If you cozy the ball up close you won’t make too many really bad scores on a hole and will finish high up enough to almost guarantee a paycheck for $100,000 or so. You won’t shoot many super rounds but a steady income of $1 million a year or thereabouts ain’t to be sneezed at.
Anyway, under a lot of stress, Johnson played a hell of a round and didn’t let his nevers get to him at the end.
[QUOTE=Ring]
I read many articles at the time about how Tiger wouldn’t accept his apology for a very long time. Basically as I remember it Tiger along with the press hung Zoeller out to dry.
Tiger may very well have said what your quote says he said, but it took a long time for him to say it. I also don’t remember anything like, "That little boy is driving well and he’s putting well……”, being said at all.
Where’d you get your cite?
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You’ve been proven wrong.
Why did you hold such an incorrect opinion for a decade when the correct info has been available all along?
[QUOTE=AuntiePam]
Yeah, doesn’t he understand that every golfer will have an off day? He sets a high standard for himself.
Do other pro golfers act like that, or do the cameras watch for it more with Tiger?
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I think Tiger is nearly unique in that regard. And that’s a sign of what makes him so good.
Look, for years and years, if a guy like Tom Kite or Lanny Wadkins finished tied for fourth, three shots off the lead, he wouldn’t act upset at all. He’d tell interviewers, “Well, I made some shots, and I felt like a put myself in a position to win. It just didn’t work out this time.” And then he’d pocket a hefty runner-up prize check, and would go home feeling pretty okay about himself.
I’d bet anything that, when Tiger finishes fourth, three shots off the lead, he goes home, kicks the wall, and screams, “Damn it, I LOST !”
I’ve often heard it said (most famously by Jimmy Connors) that the thing all real champions have in common is this: they HATE losing, a lot more than they like winning.
Tiger Woods is one of the very few pro golfers I’ve ever seen who has that attitude. He HATES losing, and to him, anything less than a victory amounts to losing.
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]
Some other observations - It wasn’t that long ago when all the caddies were local black men smoking cigarettes. Not a one anymore.
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There’s still one, and it’s due to the opening of the Masters to outside caddies in 1983
[QUOTE=flickster]
I don’t have a problem with someone expressing their faith - whatever religion they follow. I may not agree with them but I like living in a place where they have that right..
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I do not care about his religion. I care that he thinks his golf game is so important Jesus will see to it that he wins.
[QUOTE=gonzomax]
I do not care about his religion. I care that he thinks his golf game is so important Jesus will see to it that he wins.
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Or he could have simply meant that his faith in Jesus was a comfort. He also said his grandfather was with him. Probably not meaning that his grandfather helped him win.
Ring and Lamar: Personal insults towards other posters are not permitted in this forum. You will cease and desist, henceforth and forever.
Lamar: calling another poster “incredibly stupid” is a personal insult and violation of the rules.
Ring: calling another poster “a BSer” is a personal insult and violation of the rules. If someone insults you, the proper response is to hit REPORT THIS POST, the little red exclamation point in the upper right corner, and let a Moderator deal with it. When you respond in kind, you both get a bucket of ice water splashed on you. (I’m being very explicit here for the sake of other readers who might be new.)
Note that you can call someone’s statement “BS,” but you can’t call the other person an insulting name. Get the diff?
Now, play nice.
[QUOTE=astorian]
Tiger Woods is one of the very few pro golfers I’ve ever seen who has that attitude. He HATES losing, and to him, anything less than a victory amounts to losing.
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I agree. I’d put Vijay Singh in that category too. He picked up $136,000 yesterday and looked mighty pissed about it.
I was glad someone other than Tiger won it. Don’t get me wrong, he is a phenomenal player - most likely the best ever. And he seems to exhibit incredible grace given the tremendous pressures he must experience. But I really would find pro golf more entertaining if one or more guys stood up to challenge him regularly. It becomes so boring when the final round comes around, and no one makes a run at him, or what I feared would happen here, he keeps grinding and everyone else drops back behind him.
As good as Vijay, Phil, Ernie, Retief, Sergio, Furyk, etc. are/were/could be, it is rare if ever that they beat Tiger on a day they are both firing on all cylinders. Perhaps more impressively, Tiger wins an incredible amount of the time even when he is not on his “A”-game. The other guys rarely do.
Again, I don’t want to take anything away from him. But I personally found watching golf more enjoyable in the 70s when at different times you had a number of superstars like Nicklaus, Trevino, Watson, Miller, Player…
I was mildly surprised - and disappointed - at the quality of the TV coverage. Several times on Sat and Sun the cameras failed to track where the ball ended up. Which struck me as wierd. I mean, it isn’t as tho they don’t know the course. I know there was one instance in which I’m sure they showed one guy putt twice, without mentioning the second time that it was a repeat. (I forget who - I think it was Sat and he was wearing predominantly black.) I think they were confused as to what story they wanted to tell, with the result that they were just jumping back and forth among a number of holes/shots.
And I’m one of the folks who, if someone wants to lose my support, there are few ways to do it quicker than to go one about how much they thank their Lord Jesus.
Most unbelievable two moments - Geoff Ogilvey doing a tin cup on Sat, dunking 2 identical shots on way to a 9! And Luke Donald pitching it not quite far enough up the slope, only to have it run back to his feet two times in a row!
Glad a few players made a few birdies/eagles in the 4th round. Even tho Johnson laid up on the par 5s, he got a number of birds on them.
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]
Also, Zack Johnson said Jesus was on his shoulder at the end of the round. Fuck him with a trashcan.
Mr. Johnson, not Jesus.
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I think he just meant Jesus doesn’t really like Tiger very much either. Jesus is with me, man - whatever happened to golf heroes who were interesting and fun and had a lot of personality? He probably sits around on his throne made out of clouds and stuff and bitches about how they don’t make them like Ted Ray and Walter Hagen anymore.
Also, if you’re really that religious, shouldn’t you have been in church yesterday instead of playing golf? It being not only Sunday but the highest holy day of the Christian year? The central miracle of your faith, etc?
[QUOTE=LionelHutz405]
I agree. I’d put Vijay Singh in that category too. He picked up $136,000 yesterday and looked mighty pissed about it.
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Which might be why those two have been the only number one rated golfers in what is soon to be living memory.