# Thoughts on the viral 'New York catcalling' video?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-the-viral-new-york-catcalling-video/703179>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 31, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-the-viral-new-york-catcalling-video/703179 "2014-10-31T23:08:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-the-viral-new-york-catcalling-video/703179/143 "2014-11-03T00:44:18Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I am about the opposite of a misogynist in my personal life and even here most of the time. My life is more like an episode of Full House than anything and I have always been good to women. Even my ex-wife, her family and friends still like me because I am told I am unusually good to most women.

Based on what you’ve said here, you come across as really callous, even hateful. You really think it’s acceptable to refer to a woman as a bitch and say she’s “moderately unattractive” because you disagree with what she’s doing? That makes you an awesome, stand-up guy?

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> No one is saying that there aren’t places in some U.S. cities where any stranger (not just women) will get some odd shout-outs. They do happen. I have gotten them too especially in some really dangerous neighborhoods in both New Orleans and Boston but I didn’t try to present them to anyone as my daily reality either. It may be for some women and others that grow up and live in those types of neighborhoods but that is a different issue albeit one that this video didn’t focus on.

But women are saying it IS their daily reality–not just in random or low income neighborhoods but on a regular basis.

CNN has a [conversation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HI4DC18wCg) between comedian Amanda Seales and author Steven Santagati on the topic that–sadly–is mirroring a lot of what we’re seeing here on the Dope. Can’t wait for a chorus of guys to tell us what a voice of reason the dude is.

Seales does address the “hello” issue, pointing out that she’s from Grenada, where saying “hello” is the polite thing to do, but…

Seales: “A lot of these men they’re not just saying hello. They say hello and when you say hello back, what that means is that’s an invitation to now holler at you.”

Wow, Santagati just told women to be strong and stand up for themselves if they want catcalling to stop. It’s like you guys all get a primer on how not to listen to women.

And at the end, “Do you think the guys who are going to benefit from this conversation are actually watching this show right now?”

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