# Thousands of dollars in student debt cancelled. Good news, right?

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**Created:** [August 24, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thousands-of-dollars-in-student-debt-cancelled-good-news-right/970242 "2022-08-24T19:55:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thousands-of-dollars-in-student-debt-cancelled-good-news-right/970242/334 "2022-08-31T00:15:22Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> I think you may be discarding the good in search of the perfect.

No, I’m discarding the bad in search of the good. This is a gigantic expense. It should be, at the very least, targeted toward the people who really need it. This doesn’t even _attempt_ to do that.

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Like I said, we can argue all day about exactly how and how much and on what specific measures the government ought to spend its money to accomplish things that broadly benefit Americans. But the fundamental principle that that’s a major part of what government does is not up for debate. Not in the reality-based community, at least.

We _are_ arguing over exactly how and how much we spend the money. You’re the only one arguing the second half. We said “this hurts America”, you said “It’s the government’s job to broadly benefit Americans,” we said “This doesn’t broadly benefit Americans,” and you’ve replied “but won’t you leave your fantasy lands, come back to reality, and concede my point to me?” You’re arguing against nobody and being condescending about it.

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Well, those are definitely numbers, and they are definitely smaller numbers than the ones specified in the actual measure. But what’s the precise economic reasoning behind choosing them as the best cutoff levels to produce the desired economic results?

I’m not going to pretend you suddenly care about a precise economic analysis of the most effective circumscription of the eligibility criteria. You didn’t care when this EO was made, and you don’t care now. I’m not going to respect your “If you can’t present precise scholarship for your counter-proposal, then you must accept my shot in the dark random number” gambit. You want a reason? A justification? Here it is: It’s just below the median individual income level, and the married number is slightly less than twice that figure. If you make that, you’re closer to broke than most people. We possibly should help you. You make more than the median but want a literal handout? Fuckouttahere.

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