# Thread ban

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [November 4, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666 "2024-11-04T12:27:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/21 "2024-11-05T04:58:35Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I doubt the OP would be complaining about a mod note

I don’t share your doubts.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/22 "2024-11-05T07:19:44Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > I doubt the OP would be complaining about a mod note
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> I don’t share your doubts. &nbsp;

That’s fair, but that isn’t really my point.

I don’t want to belabor this particular incident as some kind of big deal, but just to be clear, my point is that if someone makes an ill-advised post and complains about being mod-noted for it, few will have any sympathy for them. It’s a minor admonition and they should just move on. But if they’re entirely banned from a thread just because of one lame attempt at a joke, then I think they have a legitimate complaint.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/23 "2024-11-05T07:51:19Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I think they have a legitimate complaint.

In principle I agree, but it matters a great deal how that complaint is expressed.

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I believe a sincere apology might successfully cause the action to be reconsidered, but also, a sincere apology does not contain any flavor of “the other person’s feelings are invalid.”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/24 "2024-11-05T08:00:19Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I think they have a legitimate complaint

If they express contrition and not pushback, sure. If you’re a poster with a more-or-less unblemished record.

On the other hand, if you already have a record of at least one warning for exactly this kind of jerkish threadshitting “joke”, never mind any other reasons for mods to pay closer attention to you like previous suspensions and topic bans, I don’t think you have a leg to stand on.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/25 "2024-11-05T15:43:26Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> what did a thread ban accomplish in this instance that would not have been accomplished with a simple mod note?

It made it an absolute certainty that the “it was a bad joke but nobody should have been annoyed” non-apology happened here and not in the thread, where it would have been a further derailment. That’s a good outcome.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/26 "2024-11-05T18:04:52Z")

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Okay, I invite people to consider the following:

> [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/51):
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> I think you meant to say:
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> Do you correct people alot? What’s you’re motivation?

Basically the same joke as mine, a deliberately incorrect “correction” to the OP. And he did so AFTER seeing the mod note to me. No mod note given. Anyone think it should have been?

Or this:

> [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/61):
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> Yep. That accounts for quite a wedge of the corrections I see - people enforcing an imaginary rule.
> 
> Two in particular from the past week:  
> …  
> “You must not start a sentence with a conjunction!”  
> And why not, exactly? Or is there actually a rule?

where:

1. the OP doesn’t actually seem to be very annoyed by my joke, he’s responding to it with humor, carrying on the joke.
2. he’s doing so after the mod instruction not to reply to my post
3. It is somewhat directed at my post, but I’m not allowed to respond. Don’t the mods frown upon that?

Anyone think he should be modded for it?

To be clear, I don’t think either of these warrant mod action, and they are both objectively worse than my post. The mod note and the instruction not to post in the thread ought to be withdrawn.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/27 "2024-11-05T18:09:01Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> To be clear, I don’t think either of these warrant mod action, and they are both objectively worse than my post. The mod note and the instruction not to post in the thread ought to be withdrawn.

The more you post like this, the more I side with the note. You’re not coming across at all as having learned from the experience.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/28 "2024-11-05T18:12:25Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> There are things I’ve written here, which I thought were straightforward, and attempts to provide clarity, but were seen by others as presumptuous and unwelcome.

Likewise.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/29 "2024-11-05T18:13:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It had a little too much “If I get caught it is a joke” for my taste.

That goes along with the “I’m sorry you took it that way.” apology.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/30 "2024-11-05T18:14:25Z")

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I think it is a bit hard to mod on “might-have-beens”.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/31 "2024-11-05T18:19:54Z")

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What might-have-beens? These are actual posts that happened.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/32 "2024-11-05T18:29:34Z")

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…and reported to the Mods?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/33 "2024-11-05T18:43:26Z")

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What is there to report? There was no violation of the rules. Nothing to report, no mod action warranted.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/34 "2024-11-05T18:54:20Z")

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People reported the problem they found. That is not only the way it works, that is the only way it _can_ work without The Powers That Be going full draconian on us. If your post got reported, and not others, then it was your post people had problem with, not others.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/35 "2024-11-05T19:17:15Z")

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OK.  
1 Yeah, I was a bit annoyed. Your joke wasn’t clearly a joke and it was quite early in the thread.  
2 and 3 I wasn’t talking about you. At that point in the thread I had actually forgotten that your joke was about starting a sentence with a conjunction. Both of the examples of non-rule enforcement incident I referred to there, happened elsewhere (in YouTube comments). I was, if you notice, talking about people _earnestly_ enforcing rules that don’t exist. That couldn’t have been you, because you were joking.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/36 "2024-11-05T19:18:20Z")

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[reply to Czarcasm]

To repeat, they didn’t do anything wrong. There was nothing there to report.

If you disagree, then you go ahead and report them.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/37 "2024-11-05T19:22:02Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> and it was quite early in the thread.

As I understand it, the rule against early jokes only applies in FQ.

[quote] Your joke wasn’t clearly a joke  
…  
That couldn’t have been you, because you were joking. [/quote]

Bit of a contradiction there. I take it you were joking.

And I believe that _some_ people thought you were talking about me.

> [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/64):
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> > [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/61):
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> > “You must not start a sentence with a conjunction!”  
> > And why not, exactly? Or is there actually a rule?
> 
> I see what you did there.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/38 "2024-11-05T19:23:51Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Basically the same joke as mine, a deliberately incorrect “correction” to the OP. And he did so AFTER seeing the mod note to me. No mod note given. Anyone think it should have been?

Meh. Probably, but I don’t care as much as you do. It’d be good to learn something from this experience.

Edit: Out of curiosity, are you arguing for a reversal on the threadban because you feel you have an important or interesting perspective to add to the thread? or because you’re offended at the threadban and want to win?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/39 "2024-11-05T19:24:12Z")

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Indeed, however it was threadshitting and it was needlessly provocative, given that I had explicitly stated that I was already feeling overloaded by miscorrections.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-ban/1009666/40 "2024-11-05T19:29:02Z")

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> [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/64):
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> And I believe that _some_ people thought you were talking about me.
> 
> > [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/64):
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> > > [@Do you correct people a lot? What's your motivation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-correct-people-a-lot-whats-your-motivation/1009660/61):
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> > > “You must not start a sentence with a conjunction!”  
> > > And why not, exactly? Or is there actually a rule?
> > 
> > I see what you did there.

Your belief is almost certainly incorrect What he “did there” was to respond to the proscription with two sentences that violated the proscription. It had nothing to do with you.

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