# Thread for Discussion of Political Ramifications of Trump Injury from Shooting at the Butler, PA Rally **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 14, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185 "2024-07-14T01:25:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/341 "2024-07-16T04:29:18Z")
If that bullet had killed DJT I would expect Haley would have been the nominee. And would be sworn in on 1/20/2024. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/342 "2024-07-16T04:45:34Z")
If that bullet had killed DJT every white male at the convention would have put their hat in the ring, “knowing” that this country needs to be run by “People Like Them”. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/343 "2024-07-16T04:55:04Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > If that bullet had killed DJT I would expect Haley would have been the nominee. > > And would be sworn in on 1/20/2024. Wow, talk about changing the course of history… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/344 "2024-07-16T05:03:14Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > If that bullet had killed DJT I would expect Haley would have been the nominee. In case you hadnt noticed, she is the wrong sex. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/346 "2024-07-16T05:44:54Z")
> [@Kishore\_yp](#): > > Totally shocked and dismayed that majority now are rooting for Trump and are openly committed to voting for him. Only first gen immigrant family members (\> 60 years age) …3 of them still said they will vote for Biden or whoever the dem candidate is. > > Shocked that all 5 first time voters spread across states like California, new jersey, georgia & virginia are voting Trump. Did they say why? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/350 "2024-07-16T12:59:47Z")
> [@Kishore\_yp](#): > > Trump is tougher on crime The convicted felon found liable for sexual assault and still facing multiple indictments and who pardoned several of his cronies also convicted of felonies is “tough on crime”? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/351 "2024-07-16T13:11:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > > > If that bullet had killed DJT I would expect Haley would have been the nominee. > > In case you hadnt noticed, she is the wrong sex. And skin tone. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/352 "2024-07-16T13:26:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The convicted felon found liable for sexual assault and still facing multiple indictments and who pardoned several of his cronies also convicted of felonies is “tough on crime”? Tough on crime when _other_ people do it. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/353 "2024-07-16T13:56:20Z")
The first post shooting poll is out and surprisingly Biden made a very slight gain in the battleground states. > **[Donald Trump does not get post-shooting poll boost](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-no-poll-boost-after-assassination-attempt-us-election-1925680)** > > The new poll has revealed that Donald Trump is leading Joe Biden by just one percentage point ahead of the presidential election in November. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/354 "2024-07-16T14:02:08Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > The Bible is full of “Redshirts” that get killed to promote His favorites. > > Is there a 13 word statement that could possibly require more explanation if an alien landed on Earth. Funny you went and mentioned aliens. > **[Redshirt (stock character)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(stock_character))** > > A "redshirt" is a stock character in fiction who dies soon after being introduced. The term originates from the original Star Trek (NBC, 1966–69) television series in which the red-shirted security personnel frequently die during episodes. Redshirt deaths are often used to dramatize the potential peril the main characters face. > red-shirted security guards \[who\] often got torn apart by a monster or dematerialized by a Klingon In Star Trek, red-uniformed security officers and engineers who acco... ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/355 "2024-07-16T15:02:11Z")
Well that’s going to disappoint a lot of the “Biden must go” people. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/356 "2024-07-16T15:05:10Z")
Trump shirts featuring his “defiant” pose went on sale in China. I wonder how much of that money he’d see? I’m sure they’re already here anyway. Next up-MAGA pants and shoes? > **[T-shirts showing Donald Trump fist pump after shooting pulled in China](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmy9k81021o)** > > The T-shirts went on sale within hours of the shooting and were available on popular e-commerce sites. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/357 "2024-07-16T17:09:27Z")
Oh, my, yes, there’ll be all sorts of merchandise riffing off that image flooding the MAGA market. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/358 "2024-07-16T17:11:02Z")
Makes me wonder how much of that money will actually make it to Trump one way or another. Probably not as much as he hopes. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/359 "2024-07-16T17:12:59Z")
As long as it siphons off money that could go to election efforts, it’s all good. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/360 "2024-07-16T17:26:05Z")
I noticed that the stock price of Trump’s media company price jumped 33% between Friday and Monday. Its dropped 8% today so the bump is probably short lived, but at least some of the rubes thought that this would be good news for its bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/361 "2024-07-16T17:28:13Z")
I mean, it seems to make sense… If an audience is hungry for news about an assassination attempt, the media owned by the target seems to be a logical place to go. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/362 "2024-07-16T18:21:24Z")
Hijack, ignore unless curious. > **Summary** > > Sorry mods, but this was just too good to pass up: > > > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > > Trump shirts featuring his “defiant” pose went on sale in China. > > On the other hand, you can’t find a [Phil Silvers shirt](https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/11/14/Sgt-Bilko-mistaken-for-the-Dalai-Lama/9590563864400/) anywhere there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/363 "2024-07-16T18:31:31Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Trump shirts featuring his “defiant” pose went on sale in China. I wonder how much of that money he’d see? I’m sure they’re already here anyway. Next up-MAGA pants and shoes? > > [T-shirts showing Donald Trump fist pump after shooting pulled in China](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmy9k81021o) Saw a kid wearing a shirt almost just like that at the airport yesterday. I couldn’t believe merch was out there and available so quickly. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185/364 "2024-07-16T18:34:13Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Next up-MAGA pants and shoes? Walk a mile in my MAGAsins: _guaranteed_ to fall off! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185.md?page=19)