# Thread for watching GOPers stand up for crime

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 4, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210 "2019-01-04T19:42:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/21 "2019-01-06T09:48:54Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [heavy, rasping breathing] “Eric, I am your father.”[/heavy, rasping breathing]
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> “I KNOOOOOOOW!!!” _resumes stabbing_

Heavy breathing? Have you not heard the idiot’s voice? More like a high-pitched whining, maybe 4 or 5 octaves above Darth’s.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/22 "2019-01-06T19:11:32Z")

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While I have near zero interest in the whole Mueller-Russians-Comey saga (until someone important actually gets indicted and/or impeached), it has been amusing to see the role reversal in this situation.

We’ve had Republicans consistently dismissing or glossing over the possibility of serious crimes having been committed on the grounds of abuses/bad motives on the part of investigators, while Democrats ignore prosecutorial misbehavior and insist that punishing crime is all that really matters. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/23 "2019-01-06T19:50:46Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> [https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/420704-hatch-i-dont-care-if-prosecutors-are-arguing-trump-broke-the-law](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/420704-hatch-i-dont-care-if-prosecutors-are-arguing-trump-broke-the-law)

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Bill Nelson (D-FL) (when in the House) and Jake Garn (R Sen-Utah) rode on shuttle flights, not Hatch.

Oops. :smack:

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/24 "2019-01-07T02:14:14Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> When he was up on the shuttle, they should have pushed him out of the airlock.

Yes. Hell yes.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/25 "2019-01-07T02:15:15Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Bill Nelson (D-FL) (when in the House) and Jake Garn (R Sen-Utah) rode on shuttle flights, not Hatch.

Book him a flight, and then “space” him.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/26 "2019-01-07T02:27:06Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Book him a flight, and then “space” him.

You mean throw him out the hatch? Isn’t that recursive?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/27 "2019-01-07T13:30:22Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Best assassination in history.  
> Ok, this quote is from the elections forum in a discussion of breaking the impasse by removing McConnell as majority leader:
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> If any part of the intent of the shutdown is to retard the progress of the House, and Senate GOPers know this, isn’t that obstruction of justice? Wouldn’t the entire GOP Senate caucus be participating in it?

He’s been trying to obstruct ALL ALONG.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/28 "2019-01-07T13:32:29Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> While I have near zero interest in the whole Mueller-Russians-Comey saga (until someone important actually gets indicted and/or impeached), it has been amusing to see the role reversal in this situation.
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> We’ve had Republicans consistently dismissing or glossing over the possibility of serious crimes having been committed on the grounds of abuses/bad motives on the part of investigators, while Democrats ignore prosecutorial misbehavior and insist that punishing crime is all that really matters. 🙂

And a li’l bit of both sider bullshit from “that guy who we keep locked up in the attic and don’t talk about”.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/29 "2019-01-07T13:33:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You mean throw him out the hatch? Isn’t that recursive?

Yes. Hatch out the hatch 😃

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/30 "2019-01-07T13:34:27Z")

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“All” of the intelligence agencies? No.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/31 "2019-01-07T14:04:29Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Heavy breathing? Have you not heard the idiot’s voice? More like a high-pitched whining, maybe 4 or 5 octaves above Darth’s.

See what you sound like with that mask on. You can’t breathe in the damned thing!

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/32 "2019-01-07T14:06:47Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> While I have near zero interest in the whole Mueller-Russians-Comey saga (until someone important actually gets indicted and/or impeached), it has been amusing to see the role reversal in this situation…

You don’t consider the National Security Advisor to be an important position? If so, you’re profoundly ignorant.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/33 "2019-01-07T17:23:26Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Democrats ignore prosecutorial misbehavior and insist that punishing crime is all that really matters. 🙂

Can you say more about what you’re getting at here? It sounds like you are talking about the allegations of bias at the FBI, which was investigated by House Republicans, who concluded their investigation and submitted their report, which was a whopping 6 pages long and points out that some agents sent some mean texts about Trump. And that was it. I’ll be gol-durned if I can find a link to the report from my phone though, hopefully someone else will confirm or disprove what I am saying here, which is that these allegations were pretty much spun like cotton candy to give Fox something to talk about, without there ever being any substance to it. A show hearing, like the 7 Benghazi nothing burger hearings.

It Looks like both-siderism you’re engaging in here. I just want to say that I am an independent and not committed to any one party or ideology, but considering what the GOP has become, I consider the Dems the only game in town for a kinda sorta educated person like me. But I am not a partisan cheerleader and tire of the false equivalency obfuscations.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/34 "2019-01-07T17:42:38Z")

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[Here’s the _letter_.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/28/politics/read-republicans-thoroughness-impartiality-of-clinton-and-russia-probes/index.html) Not even a “report”, but a “letter”.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/35 "2019-01-07T18:21:49Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> While I have near zero interest in the whole Mueller-Russians-Comey saga (until someone important actually gets indicted and/or impeached), it has been amusing to see the role reversal in this situation.
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> We’ve had Republicans consistently dismissing or glossing over the possibility of serious crimes having been committed on the grounds of abuses/bad motives on the part of investigators, while Democrats ignore prosecutorial misbehavior and insist that punishing crime is all that really matters. 🙂

Cite for the “Democrats ignore prosecutorial misbehavior”?

And… Trump’s longtime personal bagman _and_ the campaign chairman _and the N-fucking-SA_ are NOT “someone important”? Nor the 33 other indictees including some top aides to the top crooks?? Hey, **Jackmannii** — There’s smoke blowing out of your fart-hole; I can smell it from here.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/36 "2019-01-08T19:02:46Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> “All” of the intelligence agencies? No.

I thought it was unanimous. If you can provide a counter-example, I will happily stand corrected.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/37 "2019-01-08T19:26:11Z")

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Criminal Congressman (but I repeat myself) Duncan Hunter calls for Trump to pardon Navy Seal accused of murder.

> **[GOP congressman calls on Trump to dismiss Navy SEAL murder case](https://nypost.com/2019/01/04/gop-congressman-calls-on-trump-to-dismiss-navy-seal-murder-case/)**
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> The decorated Navy SEAL accused of murdering a 15-year-old ISIS prisoner reportedly has a California congressman in his corner — who has called on President Trump to step in and dismiss the case. “…

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/38 "2019-01-18T18:16:01Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> I thought it was unanimous. If you can provide a counter-example, I will happily stand corrected.

And the rest was crickets.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/39 "2019-09-24T04:53:37Z")

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I thought I’d give this one a bump. I have a feeling that, if we squint, we might be able to spot a few examples in the coming weeks.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-watching-gopers-stand-up-for-crime/827210/40 "2019-09-24T12:45:59Z")

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Mitch McConnell on Trump’s Extortion/Ukraine/Biden/help getting his fat ass re-elected SNAFU: “The Democrats are POLITICIZING this!”

> **[Senate Republicans Struggle To Answer For Trump’s Ukraine Mess](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-biden-ukraine-call-republicans_n_5d894d6ae4b0938b5932e6d2)**
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> They need more facts to say whether it's OK for the president to solicit dirt from a foreign government against his political opponent.

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