# Thread Move Dispute

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [May 9, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201 "2017-05-09T14:01:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/81 "2017-05-11T13:17:59Z")

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Oh, for heaven’s sake. Are you even listening to yourself?

What’s more likely?

1. A mod made a judgement call with which you disagreed. You then complained, it was explained to the satisfaction of all but you.

Or…

1. A mod dislikes you personally and is singling you out for sanction and ridicule.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/82 "2017-05-11T13:22:19Z")

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It feels like we’re edging into Sovereign Citizen territory here - CG is demanding that the “judge” provide written confirmation of a thing which is self-evident.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/83 "2017-05-11T13:26:08Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> If Colibri will confirm that in writing, then we can lay that point aside. He’s been particularly scornful in this thread, leading me to suspect personal animus.

I think we’ve indulged your objections about this, and your other observations quite reasonably. If you are asking for more you will have to get used to disappointment. I understand your concerns may not have been addressed to your satisfaction, but they were addressed none the less. Absent the need for further explanation, I think we are just about done here.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/84 "2017-05-11T13:43:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Just to be clear, are you saying that your think **Colibri** has, as a moderator, instructed you not to post in GD going forward? That is, you face receiving a warning for not following moderator instructions if you post in GD again?

Not quite. I think he has demonstrated a clear animus that will cause any post I make in Great Debates to not be evaluated impartially.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/85 "2017-05-11T13:45:16Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Oh, for heaven’s sake. Are you even listening to yourself?
> 
> What’s more likely?
> 
> 1. A mod made a judgement call with which you disagreed. You then complained, it was explained to the satisfaction of all but you.
> 
> Or…
> 
> 1. A mod dislikes you personally and is singling you out for sanction and ridicule.

I mean, you guys seem to ridicule anyone who dares make a complaint in this forum, so it’s hard to read whether it’s personal or not. I made a minor complaint. You guys kinda lost your shit. Colibri especially.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/86 "2017-05-11T13:45:28Z")

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Colibri’s not even a Great Debates moderator for crying out loud.

At least try, will you?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/87 "2017-05-11T13:46:34Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> I think we’ve indulged your objections about this, and your other observations quite reasonably. If you are asking for more you will have to get used to disappointment. I understand your concerns may not have been addressed to your satisfaction, but they were addressed none the less. Absent the need for further explanation, I think we are just about done here.

You, personally, have been reasonable. I absolutely concur with that, though I disagree with your conclusion.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/88 "2017-05-11T13:50:55Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Colibri’s not even a Great Debates moderator for crying out loud.
> 
> At least try, will you?

I apologize, I don’t keep track of which moderators are assigned to which forums. I assumed from his vehemence here that he had some sort of personal stake in the discussion, and was a GD mod. Correction noted!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/89 "2017-05-11T14:07:18Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Not quite. I think he has demonstrated a clear animus that will cause any post I make in Great Debates to not be evaluated impartially.

OK, thanks for the clarification. I don’t agree with that, but at least I think we have a more accurate view of what you’re trying to say. I really did think your earlier post could be read to say you thought were no longer allowed to post in GD.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/90 "2017-05-11T14:24:53Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> OK, thanks for the clarification. I don’t agree with that, but at least I think we have a more accurate view of what you’re trying to say. I really did think your earlier post could be read to say you thought were no longer allowed to post in GD.

It’s a plausible reading. My posting style, even when I’m serious about something, tends to be playful, which sometimes leads to ambiguity. I can post in ‘robot mode’, as I am doing now, but it’s less engaging for me so I seldom do it.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/91 "2017-05-11T15:21:11Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Oh, no, Colibri said I had no business being in GD. With the latitude of moderator authority here, I can only interpret that to mean that any thread I attempt to start there will be moved without meaningful review. 😃

> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> If Colibri will confirm that in writing, then we can lay that point aside. He’s been particularly scornful in this thread, leading me to suspect personal animus.

As has been pointed out, I am not a GD moderator and so would not be moving threads out of that forum. In any case I was not suggesting that you be prevented from posting in GD, just that _if you thought that the OP was framed as a proper debate_, your debating experience was evidently inadequate to effectively participate in that forum.

I hold no personal animus towards you. However, I don’t feel that beating a dead horse in ATMB for days on end over a trivial complaint that has been responded to by the moderators and which has received no support from other posters is a productive use of this forum.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/92 "2017-05-11T16:14:46Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> … I made a minor complaint. You guys kinda lost your shit. Colibri especially.

MINOR? YOU GUYS?

Pot, meet kettle.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/93 "2017-05-11T16:30:12Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> MINOR? YOU GUYS?
> 
> Pot, meet kettle.

Has someone made a minor complaint to me that I’ve gotten abusive about? I can’t sensibly interpret your comment any other way, but I don’t recall any similar incident. Could you clarify?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/94 "2017-05-11T16:36:30Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> However, I don’t feel that beating a dead horse in ATMB for days on end over a trivial complaint that has been responded to by the moderators and which has received no support from other posters is a productive use of this forum.

At this point, I am only responding to correct misperceptions and factual errors, and to respond to personal attacks. I put down the horse pulper a while ago.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/95 "2017-05-11T19:05:44Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> At this point, I am only responding to correct misperceptions and factual errors, and to respond to personal attacks. I put down the horse pulper a while ago.

You are not coming across well in this thread _at all_. Your posts are hyperbolic, obtuse and unreasonable.

In comparison, the modes are coming across as extremely reasonable (though they seem to be handling you with kid gloves). They, and the original thread being moved, are correct. You are incorrect.

Just so you can’t keep repeating that it’s “only 2 people and a handful of modes” who disagree with you.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/96 "2017-05-11T19:28:36Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> You are not coming across well in this thread _at all_. Your posts are hyperbolic, obtuse and unreasonable.
> 
> In comparison, the modes are coming across as extremely reasonable (though they seem to be handling you with kid gloves). They, and the original thread being moved, are correct. You are incorrect.
> 
> Just so you can’t keep repeating that it’s “only 2 people and a handful of modes” who disagree with you.

He’s doing the same shtick in the Bricker pit thread. Hope everything is ok in his life.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/97 "2017-05-11T19:28:53Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> You are not coming across well in this thread _at all_. Your posts are hyperbolic, obtuse and unreasonable.

Your opinion means so much to me.

> [@](#):
>
> In comparison, the modes are coming across as extremely reasonable (though they seem to be handling you with kid gloves). They, and the original thread being moved, are correct. You are incorrect.

The modes? 😃

> [@](#):
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> Just so you can’t **keep repeating** that it’s “only 2 people and a handful of modes” who disagree with you.

As far as I know, I haven’t been repeating it. Check your screen for stutter.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/98 "2017-05-11T19:30:22Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> He’s doing the same shtick in the Bricker pit thread. Hope everything is ok in his life.

My pit posts are hyperbolic? Oh, no!

I’m doing fine, thanks. A little bored this week waiting on tech support to get back to me on a few things.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/99 "2017-05-11T19:55:16Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Your opinion means so much to me.  
> The modes? 😃  
> As far as I know, I haven’t been repeating it. Check your screen for stutter.

Aww, bless.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-move-dispute/786201/100 "2017-05-11T21:23:12Z")

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