# Threadshitting on a thread to whine about threadshitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397 "2009-02-04T10:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/101 "2009-02-05T20:51:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Not at all, I was _encouraging_ a good deed and offering much needed advice on how to accomplish it in a more efficient and more graceful manner. That may well have been your intention, but somehow what you wrote did not come off as encouraging and a kindly offering. You might need to choose your words more carefully in the future with an eye for tact if that was your intent. Now that was meant as constructive criticism and I hope you can take it as such. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/102 "2009-02-05T21:06:42Z")
It’s true, **Diogenes** , you did come off harsh there with the “not a billion dollar bequeath” and the “pompous” lines. It was def. more negative feeling than positive encouragement at least. When I read it and subsequent offer, I thought it was a joke, and was just waiting for the next Doper to come along and say “I’ll donate TWICE as much as what \*\*Diogenes \*\*will offer if you give it to someone in need personally rather than a shelter”. Now I believe you’re more likely to donate as you said and all, but when I first read your comments, it didn’t seem very positive at all. Just my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![mauxlicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@mauxlicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mauxlicious)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/103 "2009-02-05T21:11:23Z")
All I can say is that it’s a good thing **Br’er Lapin** is freakin’ hot. Trying to give away formula. What nerve. Sans hotness, she may have been banned. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/104 "2009-02-05T21:20:05Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Not at all, I was _encouraging_ a good deed and offering much needed advice on how to accomplish it in a more efficient and more graceful manner. Tell yourself this all you want, but your “encouragement” consisted of _discouraging_ a different good deed by ridiculing it and questioning its motives. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/105 "2009-02-05T21:57:10Z")
I did say it sounded pompous to make people petition for it. I still think it _comes off_ that way, whether it was intended or not. I also think that giving it to an established, professionally run food bank or women’s shelter will give the stuff a better chance of getting to a needed baby than an internet message board. I was “discouraging” what I think is likely to be a less effective _method_ of making the donation, not the desire to donate in itself. ---
**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/106 "2009-02-05T23:22:41Z")
[quote=“1920s Style “Death Ray”, post:100, topic:484397”] The only reason I can think of for you to mention the OP wanting recognition is to make an accusation. [/QUOTE] And I’ve already said that wasn’t my intention. I’ve already admitted that the post wasn’t worded well and came off as snarky. Regardless, as has already been mentioned, nobody ever said wanting recognition for a good deed is necessarily a bad thing. I never said it was a bad thing, either, I only said that it was the only reason I could think of for rejecting the option of donating to a food shelter. The OP has since given a very good reason for her sentiment, and plenty of other dopers have explained her point even further. My ignorance on the matter at hand has been fought and eliminated. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/107 "2009-02-06T03:18:05Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Not at all, I was _encouraging_ a good deed and offering much needed advice on how to accomplish it in a more efficient and more graceful manner. I had to leave, I don’t actually spend all day arguing on the internet. If you can’t understand how pompous and rude you come off, well fuck, then go ahead and call me angry. She was already doing a good deed. She didn’t need your fucking advice, she didn’t ask for it, all she asked was if you needed it or knew someone who did. Whether you agreed on her giving it to a Doper was not your Goddam call! And you trying to bribe her by offering to match her donation to a food bank only if she donated to a food bank was manipulative, arrogant and just flat out pissed me off. Who are you or anyone to tell another Doper that they are wrong to want to give to the people here? You can’t see how that pissed me and others off, so, IMHO, that makes you a thick headed numbskull. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/108 "2009-02-06T03:49:23Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > She didn’t need your fucking advice I beg to differ. > [@](#): > > she didn’t ask for it, all she asked was if you needed it or knew someone who did That’s asking for advice, retard. > [@](#): > > Whether you agreed on her giving it to a Doper was not your Goddam call! I didn’t say it was my call. > [@](#): > > And you trying to bribe her by offering to match her donation to a food bank only if she donated to a food bank was manipulative, arrogant and just flat out pissed me off. I didn’t do it to be manipulative. I did it in response to **Hi, Neighbor’s** post #35., ranting about “why can’t you do something nice?” I said, ok, I’ll make the same donation, is that nice enough for you? I didn’t quote the post I was responding to, and I should have because a couple of other posts got in between that one and my response, but that was the fucking context, ok, SelfRighteous Shriekypants? It wasn’t supposed to be manipulative, it was a response to being challenged to “do something nice.” Why do you have such a huge problem with that? I even said I’d make the donation regardless, so whwer’s the manipulation? How is it “arrogant?” > [@](#): > > Who are you or anyone to tell another Doper that they are wrong to want to give to the people here? I didn’t tell anybody any such thing, you fucking mental case. Quit making things up. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/109 "2009-02-06T03:59:13Z")
> [@seodoa](#): > > And I’ve already said that wasn’t my intention. I’ve already admitted that the post wasn’t worded well and came off as snarky. If you didn’t realise, my post used similar phrasing to yours. See how it comes across as being an accusation? I could now make the same excuses, I didn’t mean for it to come out that way, I only said that it was the only reason _I_ could think of, not saying that it was your actual reason, I’d never presume anything about you etc etc. I’m not trying to pick on you, I see you’ve got a satisfactory answer to your question and regret how you worded your question, I just wasn’t sure if you quite got just how it came across. ---
**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/110 "2009-02-06T06:17:48Z")
[quote=“1920s Style “Death Ray”, post:109, topic:484397”] If you didn’t realise, my post used similar phrasing to yours. [/QUOTE] I figured that was what you were going for, but, unlike your post, I qualified my statement in the original post, specifically stating that I was not saying it was the case. Of course, the way I worded that could be taken as sarcasm, the Internet tends to breed that sort of misunderstanding. I did get how it came across, hence my apology. It was a really unfortunate way to word the post. Everybody sticks his foot in his mouth (or his keyboard) on occasion. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/111 "2009-02-06T13:24:29Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > She was already doing a good deed. **She didn’t need your fucking advice, she didn’t ask for it, all she asked was if you needed it or knew someone who did. Whether you agreed on her giving it to a Doper was not your Goddam call!** And you trying to bribe her by offering to match her donation to a food bank only if she donated to a food bank was manipulative, arrogant and just flat out pissed me off. Who are you or anyone to tell another Doper that they are wrong to want to give to the people here? > > You can’t see how that pissed me and others off, so, IMHO, that makes you a thick headed numbskull. A-Fucking-men! Emphasis added for emphasis. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I beg to differ. You really are quite the arrogant little fuck. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/112 "2009-02-06T13:58:30Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I beg to differ. > > That’s asking for advice, retard. > > I didn’t say it was my call. > > I didn’t do it to be manipulative. I did it in response to **Hi, Neighbor’s** post #35., ranting about “why can’t you do something nice?” I said, ok, I’ll make the same donation, is that nice enough for you? I didn’t quote the post I was responding to, and I should have because a couple of other posts got in between that one and my response, but that was the fucking context, ok, SelfRighteous Shriekypants? It wasn’t supposed to be manipulative, it was a response to being challenged to “do something nice.” Why do you have such a huge problem with that? I even said I’d make the donation regardless, so whwer’s the manipulation? How is it “arrogant?” > > I didn’t tell anybody any such thing, you fucking mental case. Quit making things up. Dio, I think you are just a black and white kind of guy. I know you also are pretty sure that your way is the right way, and I don’t think you are being dense on purpose. I also know that I am blunt and sometimes don’t make myself clear as to the point I am trying to make, so I will give you your cites. Your posts are my cites. [Post #30](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10782768&postcount=30) > [@](#): > > You dont need to milk it by having people write you essays on why they’re more deserving than someone else. Nowhere in [Br’er Lapin’s OP](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10781392&postcount=1) does she ask for a damn essay. What she says is > [@](#): > > PM me and we’ll work something out. So I could accuse you of lying, or gross exaggerating, but whatever. I did take offense to it. You in fact started the whole “write an essay” bullshit. You did shit on her for being charitable. [Post #30](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10782768&postcount=30) > [@](#): > > It’s just a few cans of formula, **it’s not a billion dollar bequeath. Don’t be so pompous about it**. Just take it to a women’s shelter. That will be your good deed. \*\*You dont need to milk it \*\*by having people write you essays on why they’re more deserving than someone else. You honestly can’t see how insulting that is? How about [Post 38?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10783023&postcount=38) > [@](#): > > …If the OP gives it away to a food shelter\*\* instead of making a contest out of it or needing to “connect” with whoever she deems worthy \*\*of her formula, I will give away an equal amount of formula to a food shelf in my area. Is that nice enough for you? > > …\*\*What’s more important to you, playing George Costanza, Philanthropist \*\*over a few boxes of baby formula or doubling the number of babies you can feed? How about here? Not yet? Ok, [post #41](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10783085&postcount=41). > [@](#): > > …I think it’s pompous and condescending to try to make people compete for it with an essay contest. What essay contest? Now about your “donating”. From above, you say this is your original motivation. > [@](#): > > I didn’t do it to be manipulative. I did it in response to **Hi, Neighbor’s** post #35., ranting about “why can’t you do something nice?” I said, ok, I’ll make the same donation, is that nice enough for you? But that’s not quite what you said is it? [Post #38](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10783023&postcount=38) > [@](#): > > I’ll tell you what. If the OP gives it away to a food shelter instead of making a contest out of it or needing to “connect” with whoever she deems worthy of her formula, I will give away an equal amount of formula to a food shelf in my area. Is that nice enough for you?.. Your donation is contingent on **Br’er Lapin’s** donation being made to a food bank. I’m sorry that you again don’t see why that is offensive, but it is. Why is it so important to you that **Br’er Lapin** must give her formula to a food bank instead of what she wanted to do? And if she doesn’t, you won’t donate? WTF? Bit of a control freak are you? Yes I know that in [Post #80](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10786516&postcount=80), you said you would make the donation anyway, but really Dio, do you not get why **Br’er Lapin** is offended and pissed off? Sorry if I hurt your little feelings by calling you on your big announcement. :rolleyes: Just because your wife has some experience at a food bank does not make you an authority on them. Every one is different. Hell, I volunteer at my local one too, so what? Most people that use them are needy, but don’t kid yourself, there is a lot of abuse at them. **Br’er Lapin** has some baby formula, she wants to give it to THIS community. What’s the big deal? I cannot believe the clusterfuck it has become. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/113 "2009-02-06T16:40:34Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > **Br’er Lapin** has some baby formula, she wants to give it to THIS community. What’s the big deal? I cannot believe the clusterfuck it has become. Because she expressed a couple of politically incorrect thoughts, which are that some people might be looking for handouts out of greed or laziness rather than genuine need, and that private charity might be preferable to institutionalized charity. Both notions are anathema on the SDMB. Therefore they had to impugn her motives, and to do what they could to discourage her from giving at all. Plus it’s fun to busybody. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/114 "2009-02-06T16:46:52Z")
You’re so far off base you’re playing hockey, Shodan. The majority here is strongly in favor of the idea that most people looking for handouts are greedy or lazy – largely because the idea that the Dope is liberal is a joke. However if you’re looking for somebody to fight for the idea that poverty is not a character flaw, I’m your huckleberry. I’ll even dare to suggest that in a polite society it doesn’t do to go around just saying whatever you want whenever you want regardless of context or appropriateness (which is what ‘anti-PC’ people want, which is a weird contrast with conservative ideals, come to think of it). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/115 "2009-02-06T16:55:55Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because she expressed a couple of politically incorrect thoughts, which are that some people might be looking for handouts out of greed or laziness rather than genuine need, and that private charity might be preferable to institutionalized charity. > > Both notions are anathema on the SDMB. Therefore they had to impugn her motives, and to do what they could to discourage her from giving at all. > > Plus it’s fun to busybody. Yeah, the internet doesn’t have any greedy people looking for handouts on it. Why take it to an experienced, established organization which knows how to screen applicants and dispense donations when you can throw it up for grabs on the internet. Incidentally, do you have a problem with religious charities now? Are they not “private” enough for you? You think Catholic Charities and Salvation Army are liberal rackets looking to hand out free cans of baby formula to anyone off the street? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/116 "2009-02-06T17:05:07Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > You’re so far off base you’re playing hockey, Shodan. The majority here is strongly in favor of the idea that most people looking for handouts are greedy or lazy – largely because the idea that the Dope is liberal is a joke. OK - prove it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/117 "2009-02-06T17:10:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > OK - prove it. > > Regards, > Shodan [In this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=501811) the strong consensus is for the idea that most people randomly asking for handouts are crooks, liars, lazy, and so on, and that personal charity is much better. If nothing else, it should demonstrate that your hypothesis that there’s a taboo on the Dope against speaking ill of those claiming to need charity is false. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/118 "2009-02-06T17:10:16Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > OK - prove it. > > Regards, > Shodan Is the Dope really liberal\* or just left of center? There are some truly liberal posters like \*\*Ensign \*\*and \*\*Brain Glutton \*\*but overall the board seems to be left centrist. There are a few areas were it is solidly liberal I guess. Gay Marriage and the numbers of Atheists/non-believers but overall the board is far from a Socialist paradise that I think \*\*BG \*\*and \*\*Ensign \*\*would love to live in. - Liberal in today’s parlance of course, not the classical meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/119 "2009-02-06T17:12:08Z")
That is unfair. I’m pretty sure I’m left of BG too! 😃 Anyway even people like Der Trihs aren’t all that liberal – they just have one or two specific liberal issues on which they tend to be vehement, but otherwise trend strongly reformist and centrist in their general philosophies. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397/120 "2009-02-06T17:21:21Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > That is unfair. I’m pretty sure I’m left of BG too! 😃 > > Anyway even people like Der Trihs aren’t all that liberal – they just have one or two specific liberal issues on which they tend to be vehement, but otherwise trend strongly reformist and centrist in their general philosophies. \*\*DT \*\*is basically a crank. I don’t mean that as an insult but a descriptive word where crank = _[an annoyingly eccentric person ; also : one who is overly enthusiastic about a particular subject or activity](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crank)_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threadshitting-on-a-thread-to-whine-about-threadshitting/484397.md?page=7)