# Three Days of Infamy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 8, 2007, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266 "2007-12-08T05:50:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/1 "2007-12-08T05:50:33Z")

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Well not necessarily infamy, but three days that live with you as unbearably sad.

For me:

February 3rd 1959. The day the music died.  
September 11.

May 7 1915. U 20 sinks the Lusitania without warning. 1198 dead.

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**Author:** ![Dinah\_Steeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dinah\_Steeler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinah_Steeler)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/2 "2007-12-08T06:00:19Z")

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September 11, 2001.

April 20, 1999 – I was a senior in high school when the Columbine massacre took place, and it really hit home with me.

March 19, 2003 – the date the Iraq war begin. Which will most likely go down as one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in US history.

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/3 "2007-12-08T06:04:07Z")

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Did you mean to post this 51 minutes earlier?

ETA: […or maybe I’m just getting wooshed…](http://www.umkc.edu/lib/spec-col/ww2/PearlHarbor/images/doispeech1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/4 "2007-12-08T06:09:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Randy Seltzer]  
Did you mean to post this 51 minutes earlier?  
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Sorry- is the question addressed to me? As I am several time zones away 51 minutes means nothing to me.

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/5 "2007-12-08T06:16:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Cicero]  
Sorry- is the question addressed to me? As I am several time zones away 51 minutes means nothing to me.  
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Sorry, I don’t mean to sound rude. It’s just that you’ve posted this the day AFTER the original “date which will live in infamy.”

Your timestamp reads 12:50am, so 51 minutes earlier would have put you on the appropriate date in “board time” (which is GMT -5).

IOW, I’m just being a smartass. Move along.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/6 "2007-12-08T06:24:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Randy Seltzer]  
Your timestamp reads 12:50am, so 51 minutes earlier would have put you on the appropriate date in “board time” (which is GMT -5).

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But “board time” is what YOU set it to for YOUR time zone. I’m set at CST (GMT -6), and I’m seeing the OP time as 11:50 p.m. yesterday (Dec. 7th).

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/7 "2007-12-08T06:42:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Gary T]  
But “board time” is what YOU set it to for YOUR time zone. I’m set at CST (GMT -6), and I’m seeing the OP time as 11:50 p.m. yesterday (Dec. 7th).  
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So apparently, I’m an idiot. S’okay: I’m used to it.

In an effort to get this thread back on track:  
[ul][li]September 11, 2001[/li]  
[li]April 19, 1995 - The Oklahoma City bombing. I remember it well, even though I was just a kid. I remember it as a moment of senseless mass evil. (Actually, a lot of unusual stuff seems to happen around that date.)[/li]  
[\*]And of course, December 7, 1941 - The actions took place that drew the US into the most recent World War. 2,388 killed and 1,178 wounded.[/ul]

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/8 "2007-12-08T06:55:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Randy Seltzer]  
So apparently, I’m an idiot. S’okay: I’m used to it.

In an effort to get this thread back on track:  
[ul][li]September 11, 2001[/li]  
[li]April 19, 1995 - The Oklahoma City bombing. I remember it well, even though I was just a kid. I remember it as a moment of senseless mass evil. (Actually, a lot of unusual stuff seems to happen around that date.)[/li]  
[li]And of course, December 7, 1941 - The actions took place that drew the US into the most recent World War. 2,388 killed and 1,178 wounded.[/ul][/li][/QUOTE]

**Randy Seltzer** , I never meant to infer you were an idiot at all. I was confused as to the 51 minutes reference. Please accept my apologies if it appeared that way.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/9 "2007-12-08T07:58:50Z")

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September 11

The day my maternal grandmother died

I cant think of a third for now \>\<

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/10 "2007-12-08T08:55:58Z")

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And also- it is almost 5 pm here on December the 8th.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/11 "2007-12-08T09:25:25Z")

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January 3rd 1998 the day my wife died

9/11

7/7

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**Author:** ![Paladud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Paladud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paladud)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/12 "2007-12-08T10:33:01Z")

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9/3/2004 - Beslan massacre. I’ve long accepted the reality that human beings will kill one another en masse, civilians or not. But children, specifically children…

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/13 "2007-12-08T14:25:19Z")

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December 12, 2000

September 11, 2001

November 2, 2004

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/14 "2007-12-08T14:29:44Z")

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We can’t get through a single thread without somebody bashing Bush in a non-sequitor, can we? Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/15 "2007-12-08T16:41:10Z")

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No, Bush is what he is (with the help of a lot of really shitty people).

I’m referring to how he was enabled by SCOTUS in 2000 and a whole shitload of people who should have known better by then in 2004.

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**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/16 "2007-12-08T16:58:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Randy Seltzer]

[ul][li]September [/li]  
[li]April 19, 1995 - The Oklahoma City bombing. I remember it well, even though I was just a kid. I remember it as a moment of senseless mass evil. (Actually, a lot of unusual stuff seems to happen around that date.) [/ul][/li][/QUOTE]

They do, with disturbing frequency.

The [siege](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege) in Waco ended on April 19, 1994.  
As you said, the Oklahoma City Bombing were the same day a year later. I was 14 and at school when they announced the bombings. One of my teacher’s husbands was in Oklahoma City on business.

[Columbine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre) came four years later in 1999, just a day off. It happened on the 20th.

[ul]  
[/ul] [ul]  
[li]December 7, 1941- Pearl Harbor Day(the original)[/li][li]September 11, 2001-it’s what started all this mess, gave them the excuse(if they needed one) to go to war[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/17 "2007-12-08T17:44:52Z")

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November 24, 1991-Death of Freddie Mercury.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/18 "2007-12-08T19:29:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Cicero]  
Well not necessarily infamy, but three days that live with you as unbearably sad.  
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In my lifetime:

January 28, 1986. The explosion of the _Challenger_. My elementary school teacher stopped class and we watched the news casts. I’ll remember that the rest of my life.

9/11 - I was in my office working on an air quality model, when I started to notice that the rest of the building had become silent. I just knew something was wrong, but I didn’t know why. I stepped out of the office to see what had happened. I had no idea. You know the rest.

3/27/2007 - Personal. On my way to my grandmother’s funeral I was in a bad car wreck that flipped my truck over three times on I-95 at 75 mph. Miraculously, I was uninjured. I never made it to the Funeral. One life taken, one life saved.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/19 "2007-12-08T19:58:32Z")

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December 6, 1989 - [the École Polytechnique Massacre.](http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_Massacre)

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-days-of-infamy/429266/20 "2007-12-09T01:08:38Z")

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The usual-- November 23, 1963 (Kennedy’s assassination) September 11, and July 31, 2007, my wife’s death.

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