# Three men freeze to death in a friend's backyard and aren't found for three days **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 16, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151 "2024-01-16T06:01:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/221 "2024-01-27T08:58:05Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Fentanyl costs money. Nobody in thr drug biz dumps expensive Fentanyl into other products willy nilly. The amount of Fentanyl it takes to kill someone is the size of a grain of salt. It comes from China via Mexico. It’s cheap. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/222 "2024-01-27T14:16:05Z")
Pablo Escobar has entered the chat ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/223 "2024-01-27T14:30:28Z")
Someday, someone should analyze this thread. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/224 "2024-01-27T15:50:12Z")
5th man at the party has been publicly identified. He must feel incredibly lucky to be alive. Maybe he’s given police more information about the activities that night? > **[5th Kansas City Chiefs fan at party where 3 friends were later found frozen...](https://nypost.com/2024/01/26/news/5th-kansas-city-chiefs-fan-at-party-where-3-died-idd-as-alex-weamer-lee-report/)** > > The man was childhood friends with the victims and party host Jordan Willis from their days at Park Hill High School. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/225 "2024-01-27T16:08:38Z")
I suspect that there is much less to this story than we imagine. After all, it is getting thorough coverage in the Daily Fail and NY(thickasa)Post. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/226 "2024-01-27T16:38:27Z")
From the cite above: Willis was also unreachable. His lawyer has said he had been “asleep on the couch” next to a loud fan while wearing noise-canceling headphones for nearly two days. Sounds like he was zonked out and hot. And grown men watching “Jeopardy” after getting together to watch a football game? Sounds like everybody was trashed. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/227 "2024-01-27T16:48:41Z")
Wow, thanks for the info. I honestly didn’t know that watching Jeopardy was a popular pastime among drug users. I’ll be sure to close the curtains when I watch it so the neighbors don’t get the wrong idea. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/228 "2024-01-27T17:01:53Z")
I’ve yet to see anybody at a bar request Jeopardy after a game. “ll take, things people don’t do after an NFL playoff game for $1000”. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/229 "2024-01-27T17:19:05Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > I honestly didn’t know that watching Jeopardy was a popular pastime among drug users. Back in the day when VCRs were a fairly new thing I invited some friends over for a beers and bongs get together. I had previously videotaped an episode of Jeopardy and had it cued up and ready. Once everyone was into the music and very stoned, I got up and switched from the stereo to the television (and VCR). I said, “oh wow, Jeopardy is on” and sat back down. I answered the first few correctly and my friends were impressed. Then I started shouting questions immediately after the answers were shown, rapid fire. It was fucking hilarious. The original concept wasn’t mine, I had read it somewhere. Possibly the finest stunt I ever pulled. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/230 "2024-01-27T17:34:58Z")
The amount of caffeine it takes to kill someone is the size of a teaspoon. It comes from Columbia. It’s cheap and addictive. I think the police should be looking for empty Panera cups in the house. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/231 "2024-01-27T17:55:38Z")
That sounds like a tip you should give the police. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/232 "2024-01-28T01:23:14Z")
The news said between 1 and 1 1/2 weeks for the toxicology report(s). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/233 "2024-01-30T23:48:42Z")
_What’cha talking bout Willis?_ This guy’s story is so full of 💩. Who wears noise canceling headphones alone in their own house? Sleeps 48 hours? Link [Kansas City Chiefs fan found dead in backyard was in unusual position: victim's brother](https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/news/chiefs-fan-found-dead-in-backyard-was-in-unusual-position-victims-brother-says/) > [@](#): > > As a brother, I’m looking at everything,” Price [told News Nation’s Chris Cuomo on Monday.](https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1752152425937441097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752152425937441097%7Ctwgr%5E99458384936dfbbf2c7ff1d4dbf36ca65ce72faa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-13021471%2FKansas-Chiefs-bodies-Jonathan-Price-Jordan-willis-News-Nation.html) > > He shared that he discovered that Harrington was “found on a lawn chair on the back porch, rather than all three laying flat, which paints a picture we didn’t have from the very beginning.” > > Price also ripped apart Kansas City police, who have said there is no evidence of foul play in the victims’ deaths — as he suggested his brother may have unknowingly taken an unknown substance. > [@](#): > > Jordan Willis has claimed he spent the 48 hours between the game and when the bodies were discovered [“asleep on the couch”](https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/news/kansas-city-chiefs-fans-parents-raises-questions-about-frozen-death/)next to a loud fan while wearing noise-canceling headphones, unaware of the flurry of calls and messages from loved ones trying to locate the missing men. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/234 "2024-01-30T23:52:22Z")
Umm. My daughters, Hamza, 4 grand kids. Pretty much any one gaming or listening to music that would like to ignore me screaming or dogs barking. Or one particular Siamese who has a very loud howl. Often. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/235 "2024-01-30T23:53:59Z")
Willis was home alone. Arnold wasn’t there. 😉 It’s the sleeping 48 hours I find fishy. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/236 "2024-01-31T00:13:02Z")
I want to know what noise canceling headphones he was wearing for 48 hours? That kind of battery life leads to endorsement deals! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/237 "2024-01-31T01:11:50Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I’ve yet to see anybody at a bar request Jeopardy after a game. What if one of them is a PhD scientist? This is that Jordan Willis. > **[Meet the IAVI scientist applying new and emerging technologies to one of the...](https://www.iavi.org/features/meet-the-iavi-scientist-applying-new-and-emerging-technologies-to-one-of-the-toughest-challenges-facing-hiv-vaccine-researchers-today/)** > > Est. reading time: 1 minute ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/238 "2024-01-31T01:18:56Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > _What’cha talking bout Willis?_ This guy’s story is so full of 💩. > > Who wears noise canceling headphones alone in their own house? Your own quote seems to explain it (bolding mine) : > Jordan Willis has claimed he spent the 48 hours between the game and when the bodies were discovered [“asleep on the couch”](https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/news/kansas-city-chiefs-fans-parents-raises-questions-about-frozen-death/) **next to a loud fan** while wearing noise-canceling headphones, unaware of the flurry of calls and messages from loved ones trying to locate the missing men. ⁢ Noise cancelling headphones seem to work the best on things like fan noise. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/239 "2024-01-31T01:22:22Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Noise cancelling headphones seem to work the best on things like fan noise. Yes, white noise type noise is what they work best on, for sure, and a fan will give noise like that. The 48-hours part, as mentioned before, is a little suspect. Mine will die well before 48 hours of active noise cancellation. And, no, there’s nothing weird, IMO, about wearing noise cancelling headphones while alone at home. I don’t typically do so, but I have when I just wanted to shut the world out. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/240 "2024-01-31T03:53:32Z")
Noise canceling headsets shouldn’t cancel out a ringing phone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=13)