# Three men freeze to death in a friend's backyard and aren't found for three days

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 16, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151 "2024-01-16T06:01:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
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Still dead.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
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Which one?

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/396 "2024-03-12T06:21:05Z")

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This is the latest update I’ve found from March 7.  
[Cause of Kansas City Chiefs fan deaths remains mystery 2 months later (usatoday.com)](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/03/07/dead-kansas-city-chiefs-fans-autopsy-pending/72868061007/)

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> The prosecutor said the autopsy records remained closed as the investigation remains “active and ongoing.” Both autopsy and toxicology results in the case will remain closed until the case becomes inactive, the head prosecutor said. Zhand said that will take place as soon as (1) He decides not to prosecute the case, (2) The statute of limitations to file criminal charges expires or 10 years after the offense date (whichever occurs first), (3) Someone is convicted in connection to “information contained in the investigative records” and the convict’s appeal process is exhausted. “I do not know when my office will make a final decision on whether we can file criminal charges” Zahnd said.

Looks like they are still investigating something that could result in criminal charges.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/397 "2024-03-12T11:02:10Z")

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My cynical self says they are using all the possible reasons for basically never giving out what they know. Why they want to do that I don’t know, but I think I recognize stalling when I see it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/398 "2024-03-12T14:34:50Z")

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The autopsy revealed that… \< cue music \>

all their internal organs had been removed. Just vanished into thin air. But there were no external marks or cuts. It’s like they were just teleported out or something.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/399 "2024-03-12T14:36:30Z")

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Then they realized the autopsy had already been performed on the previous day.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/400 "2024-03-12T14:56:39Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The autopsy revealed that… \< cue music \>

[Link.](https://youtu.be/MBoGGv6tUts)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/401 "2024-03-12T15:01:02Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Then they realized the autopsy had already been performed on the previous day.

“It’s so embarrassing,” Scully groans, rolling her eyes.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/402 "2024-03-12T15:33:00Z")

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The usual reason for stalling like this is that it might make somebody important look bad. Occasionally it is because they are actually going to charge someone, but it seems like they could have done that by now without compromising much of anything.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/403 "2024-03-12T16:12:26Z")

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I think they must be stalling because in some obscure, unfathomable way, Donald Trump was involved.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/404 "2024-03-12T16:54:27Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Still dead.

Just like **Francisco Franco**.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/405 "2024-03-12T16:54:51Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> obscure, unfathomable way, Donald Trump was involved.

They played a drinking game where they took a shot every time he lied.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/406 "2024-03-12T18:22:23Z")

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The police don’t normally release every piece of evidence to the public right away.

They initially said no foul play was suspected.

What if that’s changed as a result of the fox screens?

Hypothetically, what if the tox screens didn’t just show weed and booze? What if they had heightened levels of some other drugs, illegal, that likely contributed to the deaths? Then it may shift from being a “no foul play” to “who gave them the illegal drugs that contributed to their deaths? Did that person commit a homicide crime?”

The fact that the statement came from the prosecutor, not from the police , points that way. It sounds like there now is a potential prosecution, which wasn’t the case with the initial police statements that no criminal offence was suspected.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/407 "2024-03-12T18:26:38Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> What if that’s changed as a result of the fox screens?

Oh man, if the foxes are getting involved, who knows where this could lead?!?

😃

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/408 "2024-03-12T18:36:02Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> What if that’s changed as a result of the fox screens?

I’m afraid the cat scan didn’t show anything, we’ll need to run a fox screen to be sure.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/409 "2024-03-12T18:42:08Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> What if that’s changed as a result of the fox screens?

So now we must wonder, what _does_ the fox say?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/410 "2024-03-12T19:20:42Z")

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Who? Fox Mulder?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/411 "2024-03-12T20:32:22Z")

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Whole lotta ways to come up with clear evidence that a crime was committed, but not enough evidence to say _who_ committed the clear crime.

In that case they sit on their evidence hoping somehow something will break that connects the two before the statute of limitations runs. Even something like the dumbass getting arrested 3 years later for something unrelated then blabbing to his cellmate at the holding tank.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/412 "2024-03-12T20:47:45Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> So now we must wonder, what _does_ the fox say?

Depends? Is it under oath?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/413 "2024-03-12T21:04:47Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> So now we must wonder, what _does_ the fox say?

My See 'n Say doesn’t have a fox.

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