# Three men freeze to death in a friend's backyard and aren't found for three days **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 16, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151 "2024-01-16T06:01:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/121 "2024-01-21T23:45:26Z")
I suppose. The tox tests on the dead guys and any poking the cops do into the drug habits of the homeowner will tell most of the tale. The rest is just salacious details that don’t affect the outcome. And as you suggest, probably stupid drug-addled details. One thing about dead people: they are in no hurry. Whether found 4 hours or 40 hours later, it’s all the same to them. And even more so in freezing conditions. They coulda probably laid out there until the end of Feb with no material deterioration. ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/122 "2024-01-22T01:41:01Z")
Not if they were all partaking of the same “shit” as it is known. Toxicology or drug tests will probably bear this out. Whatever killed them, they were all enjoying it. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/123 "2024-01-22T02:30:47Z")
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/124 "2024-01-22T15:39:58Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I find the loud fan suspicious. It’s a frozen tundra here in NE kansas. I sleep with a loud fan every night and it’s been well below zero here in Chicagoland the last couple weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/125 "2024-01-22T15:44:13Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I sleep with a loud fan every night and it’s been well below zero here in Chicagoland the last couple weeks Yep. I used to live in an apartment with bad airflow, so one room was always colder than the other, so in winter, I’d set up fans in the hallway to direct the warmer air to where I wanted it. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/126 "2024-01-22T15:51:36Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I sleep with a loud fan every night Is your OnlyFans bringing in much cash? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/127 "2024-01-22T16:12:42Z")
I always sleep with a fan or air cleaner on for the white noise. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/128 "2024-01-22T16:43:22Z")
Was it snowing at the time? Just wondering if the three bodies got covered in snow, so not so visible? ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/129 "2024-01-22T16:50:12Z")
It does have a certain … implausibility. Similar in a way to the poolboy at the Polansky/Tate residence in 1969, who claimed to have heard nothing whilst 4 or 5 people were stabbed, shot, tortured, sliced and diced just yards away. “I had my headlphones on”. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/130 "2024-01-22T17:55:16Z")
Of course there’s the University of Idaho killings too. 4 people messily stabbed by an intruder and somehow one or two of the other people at home heard or understood nothing. **[2022 University of Idaho killings - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_University_of_Idaho_killings)**. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/131 "2024-01-22T20:42:55Z")
> [@Common\_Tater](#): > > It does have a certain … implausibility. Similar in a way to the poolboy at the Polansky/Tate residence in 1969, who claimed to have heard nothing whilst 4 or 5 people were stabbed, shot, tortured, sliced and diced just yards away. In that case, he didn’t hear anything because there was nothing to hear. There was no screaming. First the residents thought they were being robbed, and chose to stay calm and cooperative. By the time it became clear this was not a robbery, they were not in a position to do any screaming. Grisly != noisy. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/132 "2024-01-23T03:29:47Z")
This story just keeps getting stranger all the time. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/133 "2024-01-23T04:58:35Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Was it snowing at the time? Just wondering if the three bodies got covered in snow, so not so visible? One body was found on the back porch; implies under cover? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/134 "2024-01-23T13:36:07Z")
“Porch” covers anything from a 20’x20’ room with a solid roof and solid walls and glass windows but no heat to a stair landing 3’ x 4’ with an 12" lip sticking out of the house’s wall over the top door jamb to reduce rain beating directly on the door below. The pix I saw of the front of the house looked 1960s / 1970s modest. Their “porch” could be anything, but if forced to be sight unseen I’m leaning towards minimal rather than maximal. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/135 "2024-01-23T14:21:17Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > One body was found on the back porch; implies under cover? I don’t think so - there might be technical differences between a porch , a patio , a deck and a sunroom but the only real difference I’ve ever seen in usage is that decks are always made of wood. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/136 "2024-01-23T15:23:27Z")
Has it been confirmed there were no signs of trauma or violence? Other than exposure to the cold weather? The person involved has moved from the rental home. Now It’s reported there was another person at the house. It seems by now the police would have preliminary toxicology results. > **[Attorney says 5th person was at Kansas City home where 3 men were found dead](https://fox4kc.com/news/man-moved-out-of-kansas-city-home-where-3-friends-found-dead-outside-attorney-says/?nxsparam=1&nxstory_autoturn=1)** > > This new piece of information is part of the reason the families are frustrated. Believing that still more than two weeks later, they haven’t got the full story. > [@](#): > > now his attorney confirms with FOX4 that he has in fact moved and that there was a fifth person at the house with Willis and the three victims and that his client went to sleep while those four men were still up hanging out in the house. > > This new piece of information is part of the reason the families are frustrated. Believing that still more than two weeks later, they haven’t got the full story. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/137 "2024-01-23T17:19:25Z")
This is silly. They can do a blood test for drugs faster than this. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/138 "2024-01-23T17:30:39Z")
But it takes a little longer to formulate a prosecution strategy, assuming you need one. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/139 "2024-01-23T18:18:09Z")
The coroner knew in 12minutes if those guys were on fentanyl or some other substance. They can make their case against a perpetrator later and tell that.“Yeah, the were stoned/drunk outta their gourds” Or whether a weapon was used or not. Is everyone in this place braindead? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/140 "2024-01-23T18:22:57Z")
What’s the urgency? Do you think there’s a serial killer walking around freezing people to death? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=8)