# Three men freeze to death in a friend's backyard and aren't found for three days **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 16, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151 "2024-01-16T06:01:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/141 "2024-01-23T18:26:53Z")
Well, if it is fentanyl, that is certainly multiple human deaths facilitated by a human-created & distributed poison. If they’re still being distributed, or had been in the past, that sounds like a serial killer to me. The victims are probably complicit rather than random, though. ---
**Author:** ![motu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/motu/32/259_2.png) [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/142 "2024-01-23T18:55:12Z")
Autopsies were delayed due to the need to thaw the bodies ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/143 "2024-01-23T19:15:12Z")
I ain’t worried about shit. But, it’s like keystone cops are investigating this. If it hadn’t been for the family/friends (who were kinda idiotic in their own way) these guys may have not been found til a spring thaw and the meter reader tripped over one. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/144 "2024-01-23T20:02:15Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Is everyone in this place braindead? Do not insult other users outside of the Pit. You’ve been around here long enough to know better. Attack the post, not the poster(s). ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/145 "2024-01-23T20:04:44Z")
I’m pretty sure @Beckdawrek was asking if people investigating are braindead. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/146 "2024-01-23T20:06:29Z")
Boy, I read that wrong. Mod note rescinded. Apologies. I’m at work and I was in a hurry. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/147 "2024-01-23T20:07:23Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > This is silly. They can do a blood test for drugs faster than this. Is there any reason that should be publicly released straight away though? Its an aspect of US life I can’t get used personally (I’ve been here 20+ years), when there is some hideous crime, why should every last detail of the investigation be released to the public? I get the next of kin need to be kept informed, but why should every last awful detail be immediately released to the press to be combed over ad nasuem by what passes for news nowadays? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/148 "2024-01-23T20:27:31Z")
What is/was the weather there? Could they have been covered with snow for awhile if no one went looking for them? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/149 "2024-01-23T20:30:14Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Its an aspect of US life I can’t get used personally (I’ve been here 20+ years), when there is some hideous crime, why should every last detail of the investigation be released to the public? - Accusations of cover-ups, quell rumors? The internet has changed many things. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/150 "2024-01-23T20:35:36Z")
Full toxicology reports can take up to two months to finalize. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/151 "2024-01-23T20:39:31Z")
Also Police Procedurals where police forensic resources and capabilities appear to be unlimited. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/152 "2024-01-23T20:47:55Z")
No problem. I wrote it badly. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/153 "2024-01-23T20:52:48Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > What is/was the weather there? According to [Weather Underground](https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/mo/kansas-city/KMCI/date/2022-1-7), the high temperature in KC on Sunday, January 7th was 37, and the low was 29. There was no precipitation. For Monday the 8th it was 36 and 32, with no moisture. And for Tuesday the 9th it was 32 and 18, with .71 inches of precipitation, more than likely in the form of snow. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/154 "2024-01-23T20:57:29Z")
News is news People want to know. If they didn’t there would be no reason for crimes to be reported. So we lose the rest of the newspapers, TV news. About 1000 news magazine shows. Internet news sites. The straight Dope breaking news posts. Collapse of the economy and we’ll know NOTHING. Annihilation of mankind and total chaos. Gnashing of teeth and hand wringing. Tears, people fainting in the streets. (Yeah, that’s how I feel about it😉) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/155 "2024-01-23T22:26:19Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > What’s the urgency? Do you think there’s a serial killer walking around freezing people to death? I think you win the thread with that one. ---
**Author:** ![Deanna\_D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@Deanna\_D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deanna_D)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/156 "2024-01-23T23:26:04Z")
Yes, but the coroner can’t go into court, and testify that he “just knew” something. His testimony has to be backed up by scientific facts. And real life doesn’t happen like an episode of Law and Order. It takes time to run tests, analyze results, and write up your report. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/157 "2024-01-23T23:30:57Z")
They run tests in book ins at jails to decide on charges to apply to under the influence suspects. Seems to me a preliminary test would be known pretty quickly. To establish cause of death. Not for a court case. Who knows, may not be a court case, at all. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/158 "2024-01-24T00:56:49Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > What’s the urgency? Do you think there’s a serial killer walking around freezing people to death? There is a good chance the three died from bad dope and if so it is important to stop the supplier of that bad dope from providing it to other customers–who consequently die from it. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/159 "2024-01-24T03:34:12Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > There is a good chance the three died from bad dope There is just as good a chance that they died from dope. What do you do about that? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/160 "2024-01-24T16:10:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What do you do about that? Arrest the bad dope dealer leaving the good dope dealers. Pretty simply really. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=9)