# Three men freeze to death in a friend's backyard and aren't found for three days **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 16, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151 "2024-01-16T06:01:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/161 "2024-01-24T17:52:33Z")
But was he a straight dope dealer or a gay dope dealer? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/162 "2024-01-24T18:02:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There is just as good a chance that they died from dope. What do you do about that? Did the dopes die from dubious dope? This is shaping up into a “Did Dodi do Di before Di and Dodi Died?” headline. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/163 "2024-01-24T18:18:49Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Did Dodi do Di before Di and Dodi Died This has some legs, it is a wonderful headline. I mean, it is horrible at the same time, but congratulations on alliteration and rhythm. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/164 "2024-01-24T18:54:33Z")
I didn’t invent it, it was a meme at the time. I think even _The Sun_ of “Gotcha” fame (sinking of the _General Belgrano_ with hundreds of deaths) would have shied away from using it as an actual headline. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/165 "2024-01-24T20:49:28Z")
Dudes died from dope Dope died from discussing dudes dying, with no dope on the deepfreeze dudes. Damn Dopers! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/166 "2024-01-24T21:26:19Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Dudes died from dope There’s a very fine line between really good dope and dope that is too good. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/167 "2024-01-24T21:56:55Z")
I agree. Bad and dead ain’t good, tho’ (Kayaker, I know you like your weed. No judgement. Wish I could do it. You obviously have a way to do your dope, your dope doesn’t do you. Not everyone is that smart) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/168 "2024-01-24T23:08:07Z")
I am fairly certain “dope” in the context of “men so drugged they were incapacitated to the point of freezing to death mere feet from the door of their friend’s home” does not refer to weed. @Beckdawrek the slang “dope” can also refer to things like heroin, which would be a lot more likely of a culprit here. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/169 "2024-01-24T23:18:19Z")
I do know this. I was making fun of _dope_ vs _The Dope_. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/170 "2024-01-24T23:25:09Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > does not refer to weed. I had to clarify the phrase “smoking dope” one night telling an old story to some young-ins. One young-in said “you mean marijuana right?” ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/171 "2024-01-24T23:39:04Z")
We referred to the stoners in my highschool as dopers. Not geologists. How many newbies have came to this board thinking it was about weed, marijuana, ganga, grass, wacky cigarettes, reefer. I think these words are kinda interchangeable. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/172 "2024-01-25T19:40:14Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Dudes died from dope > Dope died from discussing dudes dying, with no dope on the deepfreeze dudes. > > Damn Dopers! Do you want tweetle beatles? This is how we get tweetle beatles. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/173 "2024-01-25T19:50:49Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FOsI2Y5K5IU/maxresdefault.jpg "What are you people, on dope?!?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOsI2Y5K5IU) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/174 "2024-01-26T02:04:27Z")
You know, “dope” was something that came in a jar, which was (is?) used as a treatment for the paper that was glued onto the balsa frame of model airplanes. I never built them, but my brother did, some with 2’+ wingspans. If you were not applying it to the hull paper, you could be enjoying the vapors rising from an open jar, which would most likely give you an apocalyptic migraine, but apparently there were people who enjoyed feeling as though they had lived past the end of reality. This, I say with dubious authority is the etymology of “dope” as used to mean recreational drugs. Unquestionably, though, discussing this further would be a hijack if done in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/175 "2024-01-26T02:16:38Z")
Seuss makes me blush puce. I like hanging around in high company like this. I will give you a kiss, Miss.😊 Will I get banned if I start posting as such? Is it a bit much? Man I have the touch. (Ok, I’ll stop now, and how!) ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/176 "2024-01-26T03:33:47Z")
> [@motu](#): > > Autopsies were delayed due to the need to thaw the bodies Is there a cite for this? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/177 "2024-01-26T03:55:38Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You know, “dope” was something that came in a jar, which was (is?) used as a treatment for the paper that was glued onto the balsa frame of model airplanes. “Dope” was used on real full-sized fabric-covered airplanes tooo. It was a sort of varnish that shrank and pore-filled the fabric into a smooth impervious surface. This is crappy article by wiki standards, but here it is : **[Aircraft dope - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_dope)**. The two common formulations were “nitrate dope” from the 1900s and “butyrate dope” from about the 1950s. I’ve sprayed both at real airplane scale, not model scale. Both were / are seriously noxious compounds with vast quantities of headache-inducing VOCs. ---
**Author:** ![motu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/motu/32/259_2.png) [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/178 "2024-01-26T03:58:24Z")
No cite, just very dubious WAG by me, early reports were very short on details but it seemed like three people had frozen to death and there was all kinds of bad weather throughout the country that weekend. Turns out in KC area it was in the thirties but above freezing, as noted by someone earlier in this thread, toxicology reports can take weeks to be released ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/179 "2024-01-26T04:34:42Z")
> [@motu](#): > > No cite, just very dubious WAG by me, early reports were very short on details but it seemed like three people had frozen to death and there was all kinds of bad weather throughout the country that weekend. Well, OK. It’s just that your post was written as a statement of fact. You did not present it as merely your opinion. That’s rather misleading and not, IMO, a helpful or meaningful post. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151/180 "2024-01-26T05:55:42Z")
There was some confusion because most of us did not see the story until the following week, so we were under the impression that it was related to the most recent game, which was played in single-digit-F weather. One had to pay close attention to the article content to get when it happened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-men-freeze-to-death-in-a-friends-backyard-and-arent-found-for-three-days/996151.md?page=10)