# Three US Troops killed and 25 injured in attack in Jordan

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**Created:** [January 28, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773 "2024-01-28T16:39:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/1 "2024-01-28T16:39:07Z")

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Here’s a link. This is breaking news.

Things are going from bad to worse over there.

> **[Three US troops killed and 25 injured in drone attack in Jordan](https://www.originalfm.com/news/headlines/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-drone-attack-in-jordan/)**
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> Three American troops have been killed and 25 injured in a drone attack in Jordan.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/2 "2024-01-28T20:19:32Z")

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I imagine it was just a matter of time. Destroying rockets and launcher protects sailors; I can’t see letting them continue shooting a ships that haven’t harmed anyone.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/3 "2024-01-28T20:23:05Z")

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Yes. I expect some form of response. Just one more dreadful situation of violence going on in the world. I grow weary of it all.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/4 "2024-01-29T18:59:35Z")

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> **[Enemy drone that killed US troops in Jordan was mistaken for a US drone,...](https://apnews.com/article/jordan-drone-attack-attack-confusion-f175962e058b9b6f668303faf248d8e6)**
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> An enemy drone that killed three American troops and wounded dozens of others in Jordan may have been confused with an American drone returning to the U.S. installation.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/5 "2024-02-02T22:20:08Z")

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Is anyone discussing the retaliatory strikes by the US tonight? I can’t find a thread or a place to discuss it.

CENTCOM Statement on U.S. Strikes in Iraq and Syria

> At 4:00 p.m. (EST) Feb. 02, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces conducted airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Quds Force and affiliated militia groups. U.S. military forces struck more than 85 targets, with numerous aircraft to include long-range bombers flown from United States. The airstrikes employed more than 125 precision munitions. The facilities that were struck included command and control operations centers, intelligence centers, rockets, and missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicle storages, and logistics and munition supply chain facilities of militia groups and their IRGC sponsors who facilitated attacks against U.S. and Coalition forces.

Interesting how the US blames Iran but none of the targets are _in_ Iran. I’m not saying it is wrong, but it is noteable.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/6 "2024-02-02T22:23:40Z")

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Here’s some video of a strike.

> <https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1753542090963726555>

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/7 "2024-02-02T22:40:15Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> numerous aircraft to include long-range bombers flown from United States.

What long range bombers can fly from the U.S. to Syria/Iraq?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/8 "2024-02-02T22:41:43Z")

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I’ve got the sound off, but CNN is displaying graphics of the Good Old B1.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/9 "2024-02-02T22:47:44Z")

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> **[US hits hard at militias in Iraq and Syria, retaliating for fatal drone...](https://apnews.com/article/attack-military-iran-iraq-houthis-229a735edbb7759ba9ade543013917df)**
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> Officials say the U.S. military is launching an air assault on dozens of sites in Iraq and Syria in retaliation for the drone strike that killed 3 U.S. troops in Jordan.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/10 "2024-02-02T22:50:17Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Interesting how the US blames Iran but none of the targets are _in_ Iran.

Red-line avoidance.

Hits inside Iran would make Iranian leaders _unable_ to refrain from declaring war on the USA. Most accounts suggest that they would prefer not to do that.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/11 "2024-02-02T23:12:47Z")

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B-1, B-52, B-2. With aerial refueling, what couldn’t?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/12 "2024-02-03T00:04:36Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> What long range bombers can fly from the U.S. to Syria/Iraq?

> **[US hits hard at militias in Iraq and Syria, retaliating for fatal drone attack](https://apnews.com/article/attack-military-iran-iraq-houthis-229a735edbb7759ba9ade543013917df)**
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> The U.S. military is launching an air assault on dozens of sites in Iraq and Syria in retaliation for the drone strike that killed three U.S. troops in Jordan.

> U.S. Central Command said the strikes used more than 125 precision munitions, and they were delivered by numerous aircraft, _ **including long-range B-1 bombers flown from the United States.** _ Sims said weather was a factor as the U.S. planned the strikes in order to allow the U.S. to confirm it was hitting the right targets and avoiding civilian casualties.

With air refueling, the limit to mission range is crew endurance.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/13 "2024-02-03T06:55:52Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> …crew endurance.

I wonder, can you take a b-2 in a B-1?

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/14 "2024-02-03T07:09:10Z")

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I’m out of the loop, but is there a reason they couldn’t have flown bombers out of Diego Garcia to do this? I thought that was the main point of stationing them there - for the Middle East theater. Seems it would be cheaper and shorter than to have flown bombers all the way from America.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/15 "2024-02-03T07:38:07Z")

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There’s a lot of maintenance crew personnel; way more than pilots. Cheaper to have them in the US. Repair parts, specialized maintenance tools, testing equipment are at the home bases. Being deployed to an austere location for a month or two is fine; months/a year or more away from family sucks and is a big morale turn off.

The US has gotten away from forward deployed bombers/crews/maintainers. They are building up old locations/runways in the Pacific to allow rapid stationing if the situation warrants it.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/16 "2024-02-03T07:45:03Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Seems it would be cheaper and shorter than to have flown bombers all the way from America.

Well, there is the subtle hint to the powers that be in Iran that, _“Hey, we can Fuck Your Shit Up from Texas if we want. Might wanna rein in your proxies”._

But I imagine they are well aware of that already.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/17 "2024-02-03T19:34:43Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I wonder, can you take a b-2 in a B-1?

B-2 + B-1 = B-21. Easy!

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/18 "2024-02-03T23:02:08Z")

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Looks like Round 2 has begun. Hitting Yemen now.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Well, there is the subtle hint to the powers that be in Iran that, _“Hey, we can Fuck Your Shit Up from Texas if we want. Might wanna rein in your proxies”._

I think that is exactly what it is. The US is saying “out of all the options we have, we chose to send an aircraft halfway around the entire planet just to ruin your day.”

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-attack-in-jordan/996773/20 "2024-02-04T07:39:37Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Here’s a link. This is breaking news.
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> Things are going from bad to worse over there.
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> [https://www.originalfm.com/news/headlines/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-drone-attack-in-jordan/](https://www.originalfm.com/news/headlines/three-us-troops-killed-and-25-injured-in-drone-attack-in-jordan/)

Going back to the original attack, the three soldiers killed were Army Reservists. Most of those injured were Army National Guard. The base is a logistical support base for the region. My old unit and the units of some of my friends are heading into the region to take over that mission in several locations. I’m not sharing anything that the state PAO hasn’t released publicly.
