# Thugs attacking robot delivery carts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 14, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576 "2023-08-14T19:20:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/1 "2023-08-14T19:20:16Z")

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I’ve seen numerous videos of people tipping those food delivery robots over and prying off the locked lid. And now that it is on YouTube and TikTok it will only increase. Have the designers totally overlooked this problem? Maybe we need 3 Laws for People. Oh, wait. We already have them.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/2 "2023-08-14T19:30:49Z")

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There’s also people disabling driverless cars by putting a traffic cone on them:

> **[The Brilliance of Disabling Self-Driving Cars With a Traffic Cone](https://slate.com/business/2023/07/autonomous-vehicles-traffic-cones-san-francisco-cruise-waymo-cpuc.html)**
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> "Coning" autonomous vehicles is part of a long tradition of tactical urbanism.

If it wasn’t done with a cone, it would probably be mud or spray paint over the cameras and sensors.

I suspect that the designers have not taken into account how much social rebellion there will be against these sorts of robotic devices. Designers tend to have a pretty optimistic view of how their revolutionary inventions will be welcomed by the public. If they’re in a private place, like a hospital or college campus, then they are probably fine. But out in public they are open to attacks from pranksters, thieves, social activists, etc. If someone is an out of work taxi driver or delivery person, it’s not going to be too surprising if they take out their frustrations on the robot doing their previous job.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/3 "2023-08-14T19:46:13Z")

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“What did the humans who Attacked you look like?”

“I don’t know. It all happened so fast. And all humans look alike to me.”

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/4 "2023-08-14T19:50:27Z")

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I’m not sure I could trust anyone who wasn’t at least tempted to rip apart an autonomous delivery robot and loot its corpse.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/5 "2023-08-14T23:43:18Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> There’s also people disabling driverless cars by putting a traffic cone on them

SkyNet “See how they used to taunt us?”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/6 "2023-08-15T12:49:41Z")

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Why should one be tempted to steal?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/7 "2023-08-15T13:02:50Z")

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Who said they are thugs? The carts? The cart owners?  
Call them Human Primacy Warriors and the MAGA folk will consider them [heroes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdykmbbaZI8).  
Call it AI Challenge(d) and it will trend on TicToc.  
And so on.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/8 "2023-08-15T16:49:34Z")

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I love robot delivery vehicles and I think America has a serious problem in that we resort to violence for everything. 😡

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/9 "2023-08-15T22:59:16Z")

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Why should the fox be tempted to chase the rabbit?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/10 "2023-08-15T23:25:53Z")

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Surely it’s easy to catch these idiots, right? Even if they weren’t dumb enough to post their own antics on YouTok, the robots themselves would have cameras, and probably upload the feed to the Cloud. Catch enough and criminally prosecute them, and the problem takes care of itself.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/11 "2023-08-16T00:21:06Z")

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I was wondering if The Onion had covered something like “Robots attempt to repeal 3rd law of robotics” Nope, they want a fourth law.

> **[We Need A Fourth Law Of Robotics: Stop Fingering My Wife](https://www.theonion.com/we-need-a-fourth-law-of-robotics-stop-fingering-my-wif-1819584208)**
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> When robots started to become commonplace, Congress, in its great wisdom, mandated that every robot be hardwired with the Three Laws Of Robotics. For decades, these three basic rules have maintained class order in our society and kept the number of...

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/12 "2023-08-16T01:57:31Z")

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Because we are humans who respect each other.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/13 "2023-08-16T02:02:25Z")

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Aren’t these thugs delivery people who lost their jobs to the robots. I believe this started in Nottingham, England around 1811 and continuing since.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/14 "2023-08-16T02:21:27Z")

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From the ones I’ve seen these aren’t disgruntled taxi drivers or activists.

It’s just people being dicks.

They don’t have this problem in Japan

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/15 "2023-08-16T04:17:39Z")

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I thought “Thug” was Hate-Speech nowadays. I can’t keep up.

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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/16 "2023-08-16T16:05:42Z")

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Could be. The video I was watching called them “vandals and thieves”.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/17 "2023-08-16T16:16:56Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Who said they are thugs? The carts? The cart owners?  
> Call them Human Primacy Warriors and the MAGA folk will consider them [heroes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdykmbbaZI8).  
> Call it AI Challenge(d) and it will trend on TicToc.  
> And so on.

Or maybe they are just assholes.

> **[HitchBOT, the hitchhiking robot, gets beheaded in Philadelphia | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html)**
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> This is why we can’t have nice hitchhiking robots.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/18 "2023-08-16T16:30:29Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Surely it’s easy to catch these idiots, right? Even if they weren’t dumb enough to post their own antics on YouTok, the robots themselves would have cameras, and probably upload the feed to the Cloud. Catch enough and criminally prosecute them, and the problem takes care of itself.

What is illegal with putting a couple of cones or shopping carts around a vehicle so that it’s ‘trapped’?

The vandalism is a different story, but even with videos from the car, it’s a low-level property crime that won’t get a lot of resources poured into solving. Sure, if the community police officer or school resource officer recognizes you you’re toast but outside of that they’re probably going to get closed out pretty quickly. .

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/19 "2023-08-16T17:02:42Z")

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The first time I saw one of those delivery robots I remarked that they would be a tempting target for teenage criminals.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thugs-attacking-robot-delivery-carts/988576/20 "2023-08-16T17:27:12Z")

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It’s often used as a code word for criminals of _a very specific_ skin color.

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