# Thundercats Mafia Gameplay Thread \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228 "2011-04-21T14:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/321 "2011-04-30T14:41:59Z")
Cough, remember to unvote. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/322 "2011-04-30T14:44:45Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > Baby extravaganza didn’t take as long, nor cost as much, as I’d expected. \o/ > > **vote special ed** > > nothing personal, **ed** - I find your post/play style entertaining, but of the three candidates you’re the one I get the least town-vibe from. > > I’m really not thrilled about lynching Giraffe, for the record. Is Ed the best of the three candidates, or do you truly believe he might be scum? Is there somebody else you view as scummier? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/323 "2011-04-30T14:47:42Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > Baby extravaganza didn’t take as long, nor cost as much, as I’d expected. \o/ > > **vote special ed** > > nothing personal, **ed** - I find your post/play style entertaining, but of the three candidates you’re the one I get the least town-vibe from. > > I’m really not thrilled about lynching Giraffe, for the record. What exactly causes this relative lack of town-vibe? Because your sentence really says nothing at all. Obviously you should vote for the person you think least likely to be Town, but you really should include a reason, even if it’s just the same as someone else’s ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/324 "2011-04-30T14:52:03Z")
Welp, looks like I’m going to get lynched. That’s too bad, but apparently I’m not a very good player as this happens to me all the time. I need to remember to ask people in the wrap-up thread why everyone kills when whenever I try to make a case on someone. Anyway, for those of you voting for me, it may be worth asking yourselves: if I’m scum, what possible gain is in it for me to initiate a case on a claimed Town Vanilla when it’s 3-3-3 and I have zero votes on myself? If Ed is telling the truth, why would I bother trying to get him lynched over someone else? Unless you think both of the other two players in the tie are scum, it makes no sense for me not to target one of them instead. I recognize that the way I lay out my cases on the player I vote for tends to ping people like crazy, so I’m not blaming anyone for lynching me, but the logic seems totally dumb to me. You’re just lynching the loud. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/325 "2011-04-30T14:59:19Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Welp, looks like I’m going to get lynched. That’s too bad, but apparently I’m not a very good player as this happens to me all the time. I need to remember to ask people in the wrap-up thread why everyone kills when whenever I try to make a case on someone. > > Anyway, for those of you voting for me, it may be worth asking yourselves: if I’m scum, what possible gain is in it for me to initiate a case on a claimed Town Vanilla when it’s 3-3-3 and I have zero votes on myself? If Ed is telling the truth, why would I bother trying to get him lynched over someone else? Unless you think both of the other two players in the tie are scum, it makes no sense for me not to target one of them instead. > > I recognize that the way I lay out my cases on the player I vote for tends to ping people like crazy, so I’m not blaming anyone for lynching me, but the logic seems totally dumb to me. You’re just lynching the loud. Aside from the fact that you could be Scum protecting Jimmy or Pleo (those were who I was tied with, correct?) You could also be Scum who needed to place a vote and so, just voted for me. In fact, trying to get Townie Cred for placing a vote is rather strange. Are you really asking “why would a Scum vote for a player who was tied for the lead?” Scum obviously have tvo vote for someone. So, while I maintain that if you flip Scum, it’s more likely that one or both of the people I was tied with is also Scum, it’s not certain. I guess, basically, to answer your question of ‘why would a Scum Guraffe vote for Ed?’, I’d ask in return, ‘Why wouldn’t a Scum Giraffe vote for Ed?’ ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/326 "2011-04-30T15:01:25Z")
Because a scum Giraffe could have just sat quietly back with his vote on Pleonast and ridden out the Day without a bit of risk. Since I’m Town Vanilla, my survival is not as important as flushing out scum. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/327 "2011-04-30T15:05:06Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Because a scum Giraffe could have just sat quietly back with his vote on Pleonast and ridden out the Day without a bit of risk. Since I’m Town Vanilla, my survival is not as important as flushing out scum. just as easily, yes. And a Scum Giraffe could just as easily have changed his vote to Ed. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/328 "2011-04-30T15:08:33Z")
Whatever, Ed. I really hope you are scum, because you’ve been a disaster for Town toDay. Anyway, I’m not trying to get Town cred – I think it’s too late to avoid the mislynch. My point is that my actions don’t make sense in the context of a scum player, just as several of yours don’t make sense in the context of a Town player. Neither of those things are conclusive: I could still be scum, you could still be Town. But you and I arguing about it is useless – the other players in the game need to look at the objective facts and logic of each situation, not just go by who “feels” scummy. Anyway, I’m not in the mood to argue about this any more so I’m going to go drink coffee and read the paper. Enjoy your game. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/329 "2011-04-30T15:12:52Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Whatever, Ed. I really hope you are scum, because you’ve been a disaster for Town toDay. > > Anyway, I’m not trying to get Town cred – I think it’s too late to avoid the mislynch. My point is that my actions don’t make sense in the context of a scum player, just as several of yours don’t make sense in the context of a Town player. Neither of those things are conclusive: I could still be scum, you could still be Town. But you and I arguing about it is useless – the other players in the game need to look at the objective facts and logic of each situation, not just go by who “feels” scummy. > > Anyway, I’m not in the mood to argue about this any more so I’m going to go drink coffee and read the paper. Enjoy your game. A Disaster? really? Because I made some silly posts. Look back to the conversations we were having before I started making silly posts. We weren’t doing much scum-hunting then. I remember some analysis from Normal, and Astral’s analysis in which he ended up voting for a dead player. And more discussion of Pleo. Aside from that, not too terribly much ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/330 "2011-04-30T15:21:27Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > Cough, remember to unvote. 🙂 fuck me running, thank you **unvote** **vote special ed** ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/331 "2011-04-30T15:34:07Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Is Ed the best of the three candidates, or do you truly believe he might be scum? Is there somebody else you view as scummier? Of the three, he’s the one I think most likely to be scum, but I probably wouldn’t have placed a vote on him on my own with no other votes recorded, if that makes any sense. After **Mahaloth’s** claim, I admit I only focused on the top candidates in my thread review, fearing that I would be short on time - that was probably a mistake on my part, and I’ll do a more thorough review for toMorrow (I’m actually tossing around some possible spreadsheet ideas to help me keep my thoughts more organized for Mafia games…). > [@special\_ed](#): > > What exactly causes this relative lack of town-vibe? > > Because your sentence really says nothing at all. Obviously you should vote for the person you think least likely to be Town, but you really should include a reason, even if it’s just the same as someone else’s I felt that most of the votes on **Jimmy** were related to his argument with **Pleonast** , which, while distracting, I take more as genuine annoyance with **Pleo** , as opposed to a scum tactic. I also feel that **Giraffe’s** contributions to the thread were the most pro-town. Don’t get me wrong, I agree that your nonsense did successfully prod some discussion, which is good, but your overall contribution wasn’t on the same level. (And yes, I know that sounds hypocritical coming from me, but that doesn’t make it any less true.) ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/332 "2011-04-30T15:36:57Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > I have not had the time I thought I would have. But the best I can cobble together is: > > **vote Giraffe** If you’re at all on the fence between **Giraffe** and another of the candidates, maybe you should choose the other one and let it come down to random chance? Or is this a really stupid idea I’m going to regret voicing? Also, I assume **Mahaloth** that you’ll be investigating either **Jimmy** or **ed** tonight? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/333 "2011-04-30T15:59:04Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > If you’re at all on the fence between **Giraffe** and another of the candidates, maybe you should choose the other one and let it come down to random chance? Or is this a really stupid idea I’m going to regret voicing? > > Also, I assume **Mahaloth** that you’ll be investigating either **Jimmy** or **ed** tonight? It takes away accountability. If you leave it up to chance, then you’re not really taking responsibility for your vote. As to Mahaloth, I wouldn’t tell him who to investigate. I belong to the camp that believes an investigator priority is to try to confirm Town players and not to find Scum. There is merit to the other side as well, especially for an outed investigator who runs the risk of having all of his confirmed Town players eliminated by Night Kills. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/334 "2011-04-30T16:00:10Z")
Also, if it did come down to a tie, Jimmy, Guraffe and I would all have a great incentive to change our votes. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/335 "2011-04-30T16:01:44Z")
Final Day 2 vote tallies (with voter(s), in chronological order): **Giraffe: 5 (Astral Rejection, Jimmy Chitwood, Tom Scud, special ed, Red Skeezix)** special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe, fubbleskag) Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) Votes cast today, by player (in post number): 1. Astral Rejection: Giraffe (278) 2. Pleonast - special ed (144) 3. Hirka T’Bawa - special ed (224) 4. Mahaloth - [del]Hirka T’Bawa[/del] (168/169); Jimmy Chitwood (174) 5. Normal Phase - [del]Astral Rejection[/del] (175/208); Jimmy Chitwood (215) 6. special ed - [del]Jimmy Chitwood (187/195)[/del]; [del]Tom Scud[/del] (195/223); [del]Pleonast[/del] (223/309); Giraffe (309) 7. Red Skeezix - Giraffe (317) 8. Giraffe - [del]Pleonast[/del] (143/258); special ed (258) 9. Jimmy Chitwood - [del]Pleonast[/del] (170/295); [del]Mahaloth[/del] (295/301); Giraffe 10. fubbleskag - [del]Mahaloth[/del] (260/304); [del]no banish[/del] (314/330); special ed (330) 11. Tom Scud - [del]Mahaloth[/del] (177/194); [del]special ed[/del] (194/198); [del]Mahaloth[/del] (198/246); [del]special ed[/del] (246/286); [del]Mahaloth[/del] (286/300); Giraffe (302) 12. Inner Stickler - Jimmy Chitwood (240) Results in a moment. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/336 "2011-04-30T16:07:41Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > It takes away accountability. If you leave it up to chance, then you’re not really taking responsibility for your vote. > [@special\_ed](#): > > Also, if it did come down to a tie, Jimmy, Guraffe and I would all have a great incentive to change our votes. Fair points. > [@](#): > > As to Mahaloth, I wouldn’t tell him who to investigate. I belong to the camp that believes an investigator priority is to try to confirm Town players and not to find Scum. There is merit to the other side as well, especially for an outed investigator who runs the risk of having all of his confirmed Town players eliminated by Night Kills. well, assuming **Giraffe** isn’t our Doc, we could potentially (albeit unlikely) get two good scum lynches before **Mahaloth** dies if he focuses on finding scum. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/337 "2011-04-30T16:08:36Z")
A hush falls among you again as time runs out for **Giraffe**. He is led to the Altar of Truth, and as he lays upon it, just as you have experienced before, the shadows surrounding his form melt away, this time revealing a small red-and-yellow creature with pointed ears. Snarfer says, “I told you I wasn’t one of the bad guys, didn’t–” A crash and a bang and **Giraffe** disappears in blue light. The room is cast into total darkness. **Giraffe** , Snarfer (Good team) is banished. Day 3 will begin at 11am on Monday, May 2. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/338 "2011-04-30T16:09:39Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > A hush falls among you again as time runs out for **Giraffe**. He is led to the Altar of Truth, and as he lays upon it, just as you have experienced before, the shadows surrounding his form melt away, this time revealing a small red-and-yellow creature with pointed ears. > > Snarfer says, “I told you I wasn’t one of the bad guys, didn’t–” > > A crash and a bang and **Giraffe** disappears in blue light. The room is cast into total darkness. > > **Giraffe** , Snarfer (Good team) is banished. Day 3 will begin at 11am on Monday, May 2. poopie I’d say more, but my work filter also blocks pages that have too many cuss words. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/339 "2011-04-30T16:10:39Z")
NETA: assuming we _have_ a Doc… ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/340 "2011-04-30T16:11:40Z")
Huh. Second unique vanilla. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228.md?page=18)