# Thundercats Mafia Gameplay Thread \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228 "2011-04-21T14:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/341 "2011-04-30T21:53:13Z")
Don’t know what this is worth, but here’s a colored vote chart. Final votes Day 1: **glowacks: 5 (Red Skeezix, Giraffe, Astral Rejection, special ed, Normal Phase)** Tom Scud: 2 (Mahaloth, Zeriel) Astral Rejection: 1 (glowacks) Mahaloth: 1 (fubbleskag) pedescribe: 1 (Tom Scud) special ed: 1 (Wolverine) Zeriel: 1 (Pleonast) Votes at Ed’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) Pleonast: 3 (Giraffe, Jimmy Chitwood, special ed) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Tom Scud) Votes at Mahaloth’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe) Mahaloth: 3 (fubbleskag, Tom Scud, Jimmy Chitwood) Pleonast: 1 (special ed) Giraffe: 1 (Astral Rejection) Final vote Day 2: **Giraffe: 5 (Astral Rejection, Jimmy Chitwood, Tom Scud, special ed, Red Skeezix)** special ed: 4 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe, fubbleskag) Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/342 "2011-04-30T21:55:18Z")
Adding subs to the Day 1 votes: Final votes Day 1: **glowacks: 5 (Red Skeezix, Giraffe, Astral Rejection, special ed, Normal Phase)** Tom Scud: 2 (Mahaloth, [del]Zeriel[/del]Hirka) Astral Rejection: 1 (glowacks) Mahaloth: 1 (fubbleskag) [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy: 1 (Tom Scud) special ed: 1 (Wolverine) Zeriel: 1 (Pleonast) ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/343 "2011-05-01T16:59:09Z")
is it morning yet? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/344 "2011-05-01T17:02:50Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > is it morning yet? In about 23 hours. It’s still Sunday over here. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/345 "2011-05-01T17:07:59Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > In about 23 hours. It’s still Sunday over here. oh, it’s Sunday here, too - I just don’t read well, apparently. :\ ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/346 "2011-05-02T03:52:14Z")
Just a reminder that Night Actions are due at 11am tomorrow (Monday) morning CST. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/347 "2011-05-02T13:53:46Z")
Anyway, the one thing that stands out for me is the Red, Astral, Special Ed troika who voted for both of the eventual lynchees. Does anyone remember if Red tends to play it quiet as Town? 'Cause I know he lurks as scum as a deliberate strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/348 "2011-05-02T15:29:33Z")
Geesh, **Tom** , are you trying to lay out a roadmap? Wait til Dawn to strategize. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/349 "2011-05-02T16:02:29Z")
A hysterical shriek fills the chamber as the room is again lit with eerie red mist. A singular figure, small and red, shrieks in panic while thrashing on the Altar: “Oh, no! Thundercats, help me! Oh, Snarf, Snarf, Snarf!” The shadow known to you as **fubbleskag** fades swiftly into a small, familiar red-and-yellow creature. It shrieks: “… Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa–” Even the shrill screaming of the tiny creature is no match for the great booming crackle that fills the room. **fubbleskag** is stolen from view in a bright blue flash, searing through the red mist, his shrieking silenced. In a moment, the room is once again lit only by a pillar of white light illuminating the central Altar. **fubbleskag** , Snarf (Good team) has been banished. Day Three has begun. Day Three ends on Thursday, 5/5 at 11am CST. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/350 "2011-05-02T16:03:04Z")
1. Astral Rejection 2. Pleonast 3. [del]Zeriel[/del] Sub: Hirka T’Bawa 4. Mahaloth 5. Normal Phase 6. special ed 7. Red Skeezix 8. [del]pedescribe [/del] Sub: Jimmy Chitwood 9. Tom Scud 10. [del]Sir T-Cups[/del] Sub: Inner Stickler glowacks, a Wollo [Good], was banished on Day One. Wolverine, Snowman of Hook Mountain [Good], was banished on Night One. Giraffe, Snarfer [Good] was banished on Day Two. fubbleskag, Snarf [Good] was banished on Night Two. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/351 "2011-05-02T16:08:03Z")
Updated - changed Maha’s color to blue since I think he’s basically confirmed by the Martyr’s death. It would be a crazy coincidence for Scum to have randomly found **fubble** on the first night after **Maha** was revealed: Final votes Day 1: **glowacks: 5 (Red Skeezix, Giraffe, Astral Rejection, special ed, Normal Phase)** Tom Scud: 2 (Mahaloth, [del]Zeriel[/del]Hirka) Astral Rejection: 1 (glowacks) Mahaloth: 1 (fubbleskag) [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy: 1 (Tom Scud) special ed: 1 (Wolverine) Zeriel: 1 (Pleonast) Votes at Ed’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) Pleonast: 3 (Giraffe, Jimmy Chitwood, special ed) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Tom Scud) Votes at Mahaloth’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe) Mahaloth: 3 (fubbleskag, Tom Scud, Jimmy Chitwood) Pleonast: 1 (special ed) Giraffe: 1 (Astral Rejection) Final vote Day 2: **Giraffe: 5 (Astral Rejection, Jimmy Chitwood, Tom Scud, special ed, Red Skeezix)** special ed: 4 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe, fubbleskag) Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/352 "2011-05-02T16:10:11Z")
**Fluid, if both Panthro and Snarf targeted Lion-O on the same night he was targeted for death, would Snarf have died?** (my reading is that Snarf would die anyway regardless of whether or not there was a doc block, so we don’t know yet if there’s a Doc) ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/353 "2011-05-02T16:14:19Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > **Fluid, if both Panthro and Snarf targeted Lion-O on the same night he was targeted for death, would Snarf have died?** No. “If the player is Lion-O, Snarf will die in Lion-O’s place”; Panthro’s ability “protect\ them \ from being targeted by a night kill”. If there’s no opportunity for one’s death, there’s no opportunity to die in one’s place. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/354 "2011-05-02T16:15:22Z")
Updated again (added no-votes): Final votes Day 1: **glowacks: 5 (Red Skeezix, Giraffe, Astral Rejection, special ed, Normal Phase)** Tom Scud: 2 (Mahaloth, [del]Zeriel[/del]Hirka) Astral Rejection: 1 (glowacks) Mahaloth: 1 (fubbleskag) [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy: 1 (Tom Scud) special ed: 1 (Wolverine) Zeriel: 1 (Pleonast) No vote: [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy, [del]Sir T-Cups[/del]Inner Votes at Ed’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) Pleonast: 3 (Giraffe, Jimmy Chitwood, special ed) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Tom Scud) Not voting: fubbles, Red Skeezix, Astral Rejection Votes at Mahaloth’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe) Mahaloth: 3 (fubbleskag, Tom Scud, Jimmy Chitwood) Pleonast: 1 (special ed) Giraffe: 1 (Astral Rejection) Not voting: Red Skeezix Final vote Day 2: **Giraffe: 5 (Astral Rejection, Jimmy Chitwood, Tom Scud, special ed, Red Skeezix)** special ed: 4 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe, fubbleskag) Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/355 "2011-05-02T16:17:01Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Updated - changed Maha’s color to blue since I think he’s basically confirmed by the Martyr’s death. It would be a crazy coincidence for Scum to have randomly found **fubble** on the first night after **Maha** was revealed: There’s no sign in the write-up that he was protecting anyone, though. Would there be? ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/356 "2011-05-02T16:22:51Z")
I’m on my phone posting this, so forgive any typos, and this will be quick to get my thoughts down. I feel red skeezix is acing scummy by voting for the vote leader, with no explination why, and waiting to the last seconds. vote red skeezix ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/357 "2011-05-02T16:23:55Z")
Busy at work. **Jimmy Chitwood investigated as trustworthy.** Oh, and I accept zero suggestions for investigation targets. I’ll do my own thinking, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/358 "2011-05-02T16:26:58Z")
Last updated vote chart (with Maha’s investigation): Final votes Day 1: **glowacks: 5 (Red Skeezix, Giraffe, Astral Rejection, special ed, Normal Phase)** Tom Scud: 2 (Mahaloth, [del]Zeriel[/del]Hirka) Astral Rejection: 1 (glowacks) Mahaloth: 1 (fubbleskag) [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy: 1 (Tom Scud) special ed: 1 (Wolverine) Zeriel: 1 (Pleonast) No vote: [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy, [del]Sir T-Cups[/del]Inner Votes at Ed’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) Pleonast: 3 (Giraffe, Jimmy Chitwood, special ed) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Tom Scud) Not voting: fubbles, Red Skeezix, Astral Rejection Votes at Mahaloth’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe) Mahaloth: 3 (fubbleskag, Tom Scud, Jimmy Chitwood) Pleonast: 1 (special ed) Giraffe: 1 (Astral Rejection) Not voting: Red Skeezix Final vote Day 2: **Giraffe: 5 (Astral Rejection, Jimmy Chitwood, Tom Scud, special ed, Red Skeezix)** special ed: 4 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe, fubbleskag) Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/359 "2011-05-02T16:28:15Z")
Gah, hanging quote tag. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/360 "2011-05-02T16:55:56Z")
Looking again at the votes on the last lynch. (BTW, thanks for the colored vote list, **Tom**. It’s something I like to do, too, and you’re saving me the effort. 🙂 ) First, > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > > [@Giraffe](#): > > > > All in all, I have to say I’m now finding **ed** about as scummy as **Pleonast**. My case on **Pleonast** rests mostly on his anti-Town multivote (which he apparently does consistently, so it’s not itself a scum tell) and his Day one cheerleading, which is suspicious but not necessarily a strong scum tell. > > If I’m reading you correctly, you’ve got about half of a scum tell on Pleonast, and you find Special Ed “about” as scummy. You were voting for Pleo, but then you switch to Ed. Since you don’t sound particularly convinced of your own case, is there somebody else you’d rather be voting for? You don’t sound particularly convinced or enthused about your own cases. > > > [@Giraffe](#): > > > > As I mentioned earlier, even if it were true and you were the lynch leader, aka in line for the noose, (a) a three-way tie 24 hours before the end of Day hardly justifies a claim and (b) if you don’t get lynched, your claim harms Town. Add in the fact that it wasn’t true and you’re starting to smell pretty scummy, IMO. > > I don’t 100% understand this. I kind of see where you’re coming from when you say he’s not really lynch leader. I’d say he was close enough, since he was tied, but that’s just semantics. What confuses me is your comment that his claim “harms town.” Presuming he’s a town player, he needs to do everything in his power to save himself if he’s on the chopping block, because lynching town players is a losing strategy. With only 24 hours left to go, and a relatively anemic discussion group, I can understand his timing. Plus, assuming he’s telling the truth, he’s gotten us 1/12th closer to lynching scum. We can now reevaluate our lynch, and we have plenty of time to discuss our next target. Not seeing the issue here. > > Overall, I’m finding little things about Giraffe pegging me throughout the game. Mahaloth has as well, as I’ve mentioned before. I don’t agree with **Astral** ’s complaints about **Giraffe** , but they’re not anti-town and I don’t see any scummy motivation. Second vote: > [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Here’s how I stand at present - I more or less have the same preferences as **Astral** , although 1. I get amazingly strong pro-town vibes from myself, and 2. I think I lean slightly more toward **Giraffe** than **Mahaloth** , but only slightly – that because **Giraffe** seems to keep pushing on increasingly diminishing returns, and that kind of doggedness doesn’t seem merited by the actual case. I really don’t like **Mahaloth** ’s apathetic, low-density play, same as I said earlier in the day, and I’ll vote him for that for now because it’ll at least bring him into the tie and provide the opportunity for those of us who aren’t sure about the motivations behind the **ed** vote to consolidate on an alternative. > > I don’t want to lynch **ed** , though I guess to save myself if it comes to it I’ll have to; I’ll have to try to check in late late tonight. It will be interesting to see what happens with those who haven’t participated yet. I’m assuming this is why **Jimmy** ended up voting for **Giraffe** , because the actual vote post has nothing. I’d like a better explanation because this one is lacking. What do you refer to by “pushing on increasingly diminishing returns” specifically? Third vote: > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Bizarre case on Ed. This needs a lot more explanation. There’s likely a godfather so you’re not entirely off the hook for explaining yourself. Fourth vote: > [@special\_ed](#): > > I do > I’ll try > whatever yourself > I have > > **Unvote: Pleo > Vote: Giraffe** > > and I’ll still be surprised. > > If you flip Scum, I’d wager that Jimmy or Pleo is also Scum, and your vote was an attempt to insure my lynch instead of one of theirs **Ed** , you’ve complained about lack of participation, but it looks a lot like you’re one of the ones not doing their part. Votes and nearly absent reasoning might let you avoid the moderator’s scythe; it does nothing to help the rest of us. **vote special ed** for voting with little to no explanation, repeatedly. Fifth vote: > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > I have not had the time I thought I would have. But the best I can cobble together is: I guess I’m in a grumpy mood, because this really bothers me, too. **vote Red Skeezix** (Note the lovely unblue shade.) for terrible participation. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Overall, I think the jumping onto **Giraffe** really sucks. They were not on the lynch radar at all until the very end of the Day. It gives me extra suspicion about **ed** and a little towards **Jimmy**. I think there’s more than one scum on the **Giraffe** bandwagon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228.md?page=19)