# Thundercats Mafia Gameplay Thread \[Game Over\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 21, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228 "2011-04-21T14:28:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/401 "2011-05-04T19:31:39Z")

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Did you notice Tom and I are masons?

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/402 "2011-05-04T19:38:56Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> Did you notice Tom and I are masons?

No I did… Dang… So all the people who weren’t on my radar in the first place have now all claimed… While this sucks that I don’t know about anyone that hasn’t claimed, at least it shows I can trust my radar 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/403 "2011-05-04T22:26:32Z")

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So… on the state of the game thing, neither **ed** nor **Inner** have posted at all today.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/404 "2011-05-04T23:20:28Z")

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Shoot, I don’t care, honestly. We’re doing so poorly, we need a decision from one of our most trusted townies.

I say let’s kill Inner. If I’m wrong, I take the blame.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/405 "2011-05-04T23:39:54Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> So… on the state of the game thing, neither **ed** nor **Inner** have posted at all today.

Yeah, I’ve had trouble getting into this game.

I’ll vote for whoever you confirmed types tell me to.

**Vote: Inner**

for now, let me know if I need to change it.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/406 "2011-05-05T01:03:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> Shoot, I don’t care, honestly. We’re doing so poorly, we need a decision from one of our most trusted townies.
> 
> I say let’s kill Inner. If I’m wrong, I take the blame.

Ok.

Everyone, please shift your vote to Inner Stickler

For the sake of those new to the game, the rationale:

- It is possible that we are at Lynch or Lose, which is to say, if we choose the wrong person to lynch, we lose.
- If that is the case, then if the scum can guarantee a lynch of a Town player, it doesn’t matter if they expose their scumminess.
- Therefore, if the Town votes are split between multiple candidates, and at least one of the candidates is Town, the scum will be able to shift at the last minute and pick the Town player to lynch.
- Therefore, everyone needs to vote for a single candidate.

So, **Hirka** , **Normal** , **Pleo** , **Jimmy** , and **Red** , please pile aboard the train. **Inner** , if we’re wrong, sorry.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/407 "2011-05-05T01:10:40Z")

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Current vote tallies (with voter(s), in chronological order):

**Inner Stickler: 4 (Mahaloth, Tom Scud, Astral Rejection, special ed)**  
Red Skeezix: 2 (Hirka T’Bawa, Normal Phase)  
special ed: 1 (Pleonast)

Votes will be final when Day Three ends tomorrow, on Thursday, 5/5 at 11am CST.

Votes cast today, by player (in post number):

1. Astral Rejection - Inner Stickler (399)
2. Pleonast - special ed (360)
3. Hirka T’Bawa - Red Skeezix (356)
4. Mahaloth - [del]special ed[/del] (367/387); Inner Stickler (387)
5. Normal Phase - [del]Tom Scud[/del] (392/394); Red Skeezix (394)
6. special ed - Inner Stickler (405)
7. Red Skeezix
8. Jimmy Chitwood
9. Tom Scud - [del]special ed[/del] (374/377), [del]Hirka T’Bawa[/del] (384/391); Inner Stickler (391)
10. Inner Stickler

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/408 "2011-05-05T02:09:30Z")

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Tom, ths is effectively killing all participation. I don’t like that.

Everyone, vote for Inner and then play as usual. Build cases, analyze players, do all the usual things you would normally do. Let us know who you would be voting for if we weren’t all voting for Inner.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/409 "2011-05-05T02:21:38Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> Tom, ths is effectively killing all participation. I don’t like that.
> 
> Everyone, vote for Inner and then play as usual. Build cases, analyze players, do all the usual things you would normally do. Let us know who you would be voting for if we weren’t all voting for Inner.

I’d either vote for Ed for his odd play, or Red/Hirka.

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/410 "2011-05-05T02:57:57Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I say let’s kill Inner. If I’m wrong, I take the blame.

Ok,  
unvote Red

Vote Inner

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> For the sake of those new to the game, the rationale:
> 
> - It is possible that we are at Lynch or Lose, which is to say, if we choose the wrong person to lynch, we lose.
> - If that is the case, then if the scum can guarantee a lynch of a Town player, it doesn’t matter if they expose their scumminess.
> - Therefore, if the Town votes are split between multiple candidates, and at least one of the candidates is Town, the scum will be able to shift at the last minute and pick the Town player to lynch.
> - Therefore, everyone needs to vote for a single candidate.

That make sense, thank you for explaining it to me (since I’m sure I’m the only new one 🙂 )

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Everyone, vote for Inner and then play as usual. Build cases, analyze players, do all the usual things you would normally do. Let us know who you would be voting for if we weren’t all voting for Inner.

I still don’t like Red, and if we weren’t changing our votes, I would keep voting for him. My 2nd choice is for Ed.. Both of them just have seemed scummy to me, partly due to the fact they both voted for the town lynches.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/411 "2011-05-05T03:14:22Z")

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ok just catching up.

As far as the day two votes. I voted giraffe because he was already in the lead and the lateness of my vote meant that it would have minimal effect based on what I’d skimmed from the day.

Going into today, my main suspicion was on Astral for reasons I pointed out on day one, which were then weakened by glowacks being town, and for appearing twice on town lynches (which I’m also guilty of) that I suspect scum involvement in. His appearance outshines Ed’s yesterday since ed has the self-protect vote justification.  
It wasn’t enough for a vote earlier + him being a claimed mason means he’s off the radar for now.

1. Astral Rejection
2. Pleonast
3. Hirka T’Bawa
4. Mahaloth
5. Normal Phase
6. special ed
7. Red Skeezix
8. Jimmy Chitwood (Or GF)
9. Tom Scud
10. Inner Stickler

Right now I’m thinking Hirka more likely to be scum, based on his jumping out with reasoning that is trumped up to the point of inaccuracy to vote for me. The logic just doesn’t read as town to me.

_vote Hirka_

Secondly, and it’s kind of circular, but I’m suspicious of Ed. The death of fubbleskag finds a a plausible explanation in my mind that fubbleskag had the possibility of reaping a whole lot of town credit if ed was to end up dead and scum, since he brought ed to the brink of being lynched. So, while it is wifomy, it’s on my mind.

But I’ll follow the mason lead. Also, if we are at lylo (which means 4 scum) and all the people in blue above are actually town, then from where I stand it’s 80% chance of scum lynch whoever I vote for.

**vote Inner Stickler**

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/412 "2011-05-05T03:48:06Z")

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I’m sorry I haven’t bee posting. The dance show I’m in opens tomorrow and it’s sucked up more of my time than I thought. You do realize that saying “Everyone vote for Inner Stickler” destroys any utility the vote record has, right? I just want to make sure you know that before.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/413 "2011-05-05T12:48:03Z")

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**unvote**  
**vote: Inner Stickler**

Vote record is irrelevant if it’s LYLO, which is the concern here.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/414 "2011-05-05T13:01:49Z")

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Uh, then place a vote, Stickler.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/415 "2011-05-05T13:13:34Z")

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> [@Red\_Skeezix](#):
>
> ok just catching up.
> 
> As far as the day two votes. I voted giraffe because he was already in the lead and the lateness of my vote meant that it would have minimal effect based on what I’d skimmed from the day.
> 
> Going into today, my main suspicion was on Astral for reasons I pointed out on day one, which were then weakened by glowacks being town,

I had the impression that your entire reason for suspecting Astral on day one was due to the potential for glowacks being scum. You mentioned you didn’t like that one post, and it might have been intended to start a vote shift away from glowacks.

> [@](#):
>
> and for appearing twice on town lynches (which I’m also guilty of) that I suspect scum involvement in. His appearance outshines Ed’s yesterday since ed has the self-protect vote justification.  
> It wasn’t enough for a vote earlier + him being a claimed mason means he’s off the radar for now.

For now? Do you really think they’re lying? Tom’s a godfather and Astral’s a goon; and Astral managed to vote for someone they’d just killed; and they decided to claim for kicks and giggles when neither was under even a smidgeon of pressure? For what purpose?

(snip player list)

> [@](#):
>
> Right now I’m thinking Hirka more likely to be scum, based on his jumping out with reasoning that is trumped up to the point of inaccuracy to vote for me. The logic just doesn’t read as town to me.

This is my major issue with you, and why I’m ignoring any pings there might actually be from Zeriel right now – Hirka’s vote was not trumped up. It was not strictly accurate, in that your vote was not last second and someone (now known to be town) voted behind you. But the gist of what he said his objection was (that you voted late on the vote leader, without explanation) was correct.

> [@](#):
>
> Secondly, and it’s kind of circular, but I’m suspicious of Ed. The death of fubbleskag finds a a plausible explanation in my mind that fubbleskag had the possibility of reaping a whole lot of town credit if ed was to end up dead and scum, since he brought ed to the brink of being lynched. So, while it is wifomy, it’s on my mind.
> 
> But I’ll follow the mason lead. Also, if we are at lylo (which means 4 scum) and all the people in blue above are actually town, then from where I stand it’s 80% chance of scum lynch whoever I vote for.

I suppose that makes it easy.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/416 "2011-05-05T13:42:17Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> For now? Do you really think they’re lying? Tom’s a godfather and Astral’s a goon; and Astral managed to vote for someone they’d just killed; and they decided to claim for kicks and giggles when neither was under even a smidgeon of pressure? For what purpose?

Maybe I was just bored.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/417 "2011-05-05T13:43:25Z")

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I kind of wish I _was_ the Godfather and Astral were scum, because that would have been totally awesome.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/418 "2011-05-05T14:17:02Z")

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Current vote tallies (with voter(s), in chronological order):

**Inner Stickler: 7 (Mahaloth, Tom Scud, Astral Rejection, special ed, Hirka T’Bawa, Red Skeezix, Normal Phase)**  
special ed: 1 (Pleonast)

Votes will be final when Day Three ends today 11am CST, about 1 hour 40 minutes from now.

Votes cast today, by player (in post number):

1. Astral Rejection - Inner Stickler (399)
2. Pleonast - special ed (360)
3. Hirka T’Bawa - [del]Red Skeezix[/del] (356/410); Inner Sticker (410)
4. Mahaloth - [del]special ed[/del] (367/387); Inner Stickler (387)
5. Normal Phase - [del]Tom Scud[/del] (392/394); [del]Red Skeezix[/del] (394/413); Inner Stickler (413)
6. special ed - Inner Stickler (405)
7. Red Skeezix - Inner Stickler (411)
8. Jimmy Chitwood
9. Tom Scud - [del]special ed[/del] (374/377), [del]Hirka T’Bawa[/del] (384/391); Inner Stickler (391)
10. Inner Stickler

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/419 "2011-05-05T15:15:19Z")

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Sorry, another busy day for me. The case against **Inner** doesn’t seem that strong to me, but I don’t get any townie feelings from them either. I think **ed** is a better lynch.

If we’re going down, I guess we can go down together. 😃  
**unvote**  
**vote Inner Stickler**

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/420 "2011-05-05T16:00:18Z")

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Current vote tallies (with voter(s), in chronological order):

**Inner Stickler: 8 (Mahaloth, Tom Scud, Astral Rejection, special ed, Hirka T’Bawa, Red Skeezix, Normal Phase, Pleonast)**

Votes cast today, by player (in post number):

1. Astral Rejection - Inner Stickler (399)
2. Pleonast - [del]special ed[/del] (360); Inner Stickler (419)
3. Hirka T’Bawa - [del]Red Skeezix[/del] (356/410); Inner Sticker (410)
4. Mahaloth - [del]special ed[/del] (367/387); Inner Stickler (387)
5. Normal Phase - [del]Tom Scud[/del] (392/394); [del]Red Skeezix[/del] (394/413); Inner Stickler (413)
6. special ed - Inner Stickler (405)
7. Red Skeezix - Inner Stickler (411)
8. Jimmy Chitwood
9. Tom Scud - [del]special ed[/del] (374/377), [del]Hirka T’Bawa[/del] (384/391); Inner Stickler (391)
10. Inner Stickler

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