# Thundercats Mafia Gameplay Thread \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228 "2011-04-21T14:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/421 "2011-05-05T16:01:37Z")
As dusk arrives, most of you are already surrounding **Inner Stickler** ’s shade with accusatory eyes. The outcome certain, **Inner Stickler** allows himself to be led to the Altar with a minimum of fuss. As he is thrust down upon it and the shadows surrounding his form begin to dissipate, a wry birdy grin and narrow, yellow eyes come into view. “Aaaaa! Aaaa! You may have gotten me, Thundercats, but in the end the Mutants will get all of you, one by one! Haaaaa! Ha-haaaaaaaaagh! Aaaaaa-” An electric energy fills the air as **Inner Stickler** disappears with a crackle, and the room is cast into darkness once again. **Inner Stickler** , Vultureman (Evil team), has been banished. Night Three has begun, and ends on Friday, 5/5 at 3pm CST. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/422 "2011-05-05T16:05:44Z")
Well thank God. Still a big hill to climb; hopefully Panthro is out there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/423 "2011-05-05T16:08:42Z")
Whew. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/424 "2011-05-05T16:10:00Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Well thank God. Still a big hill to climb; hopefully Panthro is out there somewhere. Yeah, seriously. Are we allowed any strategy during the Night? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/425 "2011-05-05T16:11:12Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yeah, seriously. > > Are we allowed any strategy during the Night? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/426 "2011-05-05T16:12:35Z")
Panthro, or whatever our doctor is, protect me. Do not forget to put that order in. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/427 "2011-05-05T16:14:01Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > Each Night, the scum team may select a player to night kill. Night powers may also be used at this time. **In-game discussion during the night is allowed, but no votes may be cast during this time.** If you have night powers, please PM me with the desired use during the Night cycle listed at the end of each day. If you do not do so, I will presume no action is taken. Just double-checked that. Emphasis added. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/428 "2011-05-05T16:32:57Z")
All right. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/429 "2011-05-05T20:46:46Z")
FWIW a new color chart; I’ll try to pull together an “estimated vote chart” from people’s pre-pile-on votes & expressed preferences for Day 3 later. Final votes Day 1: **glowacks: 5 (Red Skeezix, Giraffe, Astral Rejection, special ed, Normal Phase)** Tom Scud: 2 (Mahaloth, [del]Zeriel[/del]Hirka) Astral Rejection: 1 (glowacks) Mahaloth: 1 (fubbleskag) [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy: 1 (Tom Scud) special ed: 1 (Wolverine) Zeriel: 1 (Pleonast) No vote: [del]pedescribe[/del]Jimmy, [del]Sir T-Cups[/del]Inner Votes at Ed’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) Pleonast: 3 (Giraffe, Jimmy Chitwood, special ed) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Tom Scud) Not voting: fubbles, Red Skeezix, Astral Rejection Votes at Mahaloth’s claim: Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) special ed: 3 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe) Mahaloth: 3 (fubbleskag, Tom Scud, Jimmy Chitwood ) Pleonast: 1 (special ed) Giraffe: 1 (Astral Rejection) Not voting: Red Skeezix Final vote Day 2: **Giraffe: 5 (Astral Rejection, Jimmy Chitwood, Tom Scud, special ed, Red Skeezix)** special ed: 4 (Pleonast, Hirka T’Bawa, Giraffe, fubbleskag) Jimmy Chitwood: 3 (Mahaloth, Normal Phase, Inner Stickler) ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/430 "2011-05-05T21:00:38Z")
What is green on your chart, Tom? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/431 "2011-05-05T21:03:38Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > What is green on your chart, Tom? Blue is for-absolute-sure Town, green is investigated/claimed-with-evidence. I think I didn’t get it completely consistent but anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/432 "2011-05-05T21:21:05Z")
Non-Stickler votes or preferences, Day 3: Red Skeezix: 2 (Hirka T’Bawa, Normal Phase) special ed: 2 (Pleonast, Mahaloth) Hirka: 2 Tom Scud, Red Skeezix Only voted Stickler: Ed, Astral No vote: Jimmy, Inner. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/433 "2011-05-05T21:26:37Z")
I’ve sent Jimmy his non-participation prod, so hopefully he will return to the game soon. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/434 "2011-05-05T22:04:54Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I had the impression that your entire reason for suspecting Astral on day one was due to the potential for glowacks being scum. You mentioned you didn’t like that one post, and it might have been intended to start a vote shift away from glowacks. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > For now? Do you really think they’re lying? Tom’s a godfather and Astral’s a goon; and Astral managed to vote for someone they’d just killed; and they decided to claim for kicks and giggles when neither was under even a smidgeon of pressure? For what purpose? No i really don’t think they’re lying. Is it possible, yes. Is it likely, no. You’re reading too much into “for now”. I mostly put that paragraph in there because I had previously left off with being suspicious of Astral, and didn’t want to leave it dangling out there unresolved. (snip player list) > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > This is my major issue with you, and why I’m ignoring any pings there might actually be from Zeriel right now – Hirka’s vote was not trumped up. It was not strictly accurate, in that your vote was not last second and someone (now known to be town) voted behind you. But the gist of what he said his objection was (that you voted late on the vote leader, without explanation) was correct. “Not strictly accurate”? That’s a political way to say that. How about false, incorrect, inaccurate, untrue? How do you define trumped up? I define it as “trumped-up(a): concocted with intent to deceive”. He’s created a bit of hyperbole to make what I actually did sound worse than it was. If he had said his objection was “that i voted late on the vote leader without explanation” that would be a horse of a different color. Instead he said “I feel red skeezix is acing scummy by voting for the vote leader, with no explination why, and waiting to the last seconds.” Sorry, but that’s not what I did. Saying I did something that I didn’t do and then voting for that pretend reason, it’s scummy. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/435 "2011-05-05T23:10:32Z")
Quickie review of Inner, and all I get is that it makes me think **Jimmy** is more likely to be Town & less likely to be the Godfather; Inner’s vote pushed Jimmy to 3-2 up in the voting. Ed’s vote on Pleo and my & Hirka’s votes on Ed both came later. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/436 "2011-05-05T23:58:55Z")
So. IF Jimmy is Town AND there is a four-person Scum team, that means that three of Ed, Pleo, Normal, Red, and Hirka are Scum. I don’t think Ed and Pleo are both Scum; Pleo’s attempts to get Ed lynched don’t strike me as bus-like. Though with Pleo, you never know. I think it’s unlikely that Normal and Red are both Scum, unless Hirka and Red are both scum; Normal did her best to drive the lynch towards Red when Maha and I had agreed to resort to Lynch the Lurker. If Normal is Scum I’m pretty sure Hirka is as well. (but not necessarily vice versa). I also don’t think Hirka and Red are likely to both be Scum; partially because I don’t think ALL the lurkers were Scum, and partially because I don’t know that Hirka would bus Red right at the outset at Lynch or Lose. So, three-person scum teams that strike me as probable: Normal, Hirka, Pleo Normal, Hirka, Ed Red, Pleo, Ed (less so) I think I’d be down with a Normal lynch tomorrow; basically IF there is a four-player Scum team, Normal is very likely to be on it; if we turn out to be wrong, it’s likely that we will have another day to try again. Of course, if Panthro is in the game and Maha pulls a scum out of his investigation, all bets are off. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/437 "2011-05-06T00:21:30Z")
Actually re-thinking, we should probably kill Hirka (based on the “if Normal is Scum, Hirka is Scum” thinking); that would protect us from a possible Lurker All-Stars team. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/438 "2011-05-06T00:36:25Z")
Potential holes in the logic above: 1 - Pleonast totally WAS bussing Ed. 2 - Normal was trying to bus Red and/or realized Maha had made his mind up. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/439 "2011-05-06T00:37:31Z")
And of course, 1. Jimmy is the Godfather after all; Inner was willing to try to drive a bandwagon over him anyway for Town cred. ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/440 "2011-05-06T01:00:56Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > “Not strictly accurate”? That’s a political way to say that. How about false, incorrect, inaccurate, untrue? > > How do you define trumped up? I define it as “trumped-up(a): concocted with intent to deceive”. He’s created a bit of hyperbole to make what I actually did sound worse than it was. > > If he had said his objection was “that i voted late on the vote leader without explanation” that would be a horse of a different color. Instead he said “I feel red skeezix is acing scummy by voting for the vote leader, with no explination why, and waiting to the last seconds.” Sorry, but that’s not what I did. Saying I did something that I didn’t do and then voting for that pretend reason, it’s scummy. If I wasn’t as accurate as I should have been on my vote for you, then I’m sorry. I was typing on my phone, while driving (well, I was a passenger) with my memory of the previous day’s vote, after a crazy (but fun!) weekend out of town. However, I don’t believe my comments were “untrue”, maybe exaggerated a little, but that was out of a desire to get my thoughts across in as few words as possible, not a desire to mislead. To set the record straight, here is the final parts of day 2’s votes (All times Eastern, based off my timestamp, YTMV): 4/29 @ 10:19pm #305: Fluiddruid posts the votes after people unvoted due to Mahaloth’s claim. Giraffe, Jimmy, and Ed all tied at 3. 4/30 @ 1:01am #309: Special Ed votes for Giraffe, bringing him to lead, with count of 4. 4/30 @ 8:12am #314: fubbleskag votes no-banish before leaving to shop 4/30 @ 9:28am #317: You: > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > I have not had the time I thought I would have. But the best I can cobble together is: > > **vote Giraffe** 4/30 @10:38am #320: fubbleskag tries voting for Ed, forgot to unvote, proper vote cast 11:21am. 4/30 @12:01am #335: Dusk falls - Fluiddruid posts final vote count. So, what’s my point? You were the last to vote for the vote leader, with no explanation, with **Two hours, 3 minutes** before dusk. If, as you said is true: > [@](#): > > Saying I did something that I didn’t do and then voting for that pretend reason, it’s scummy. Then taking my MINOR exaggeration and trying to make a mole hill out of it must be super-scummy. I stand behind my vote. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So, three-person scum teams that strike me as probable: > Normal, Hirka, Pleo > Normal, Hirka, Ed > Red, Pleo, Ed (less so) > > I think I’d be down with a Normal lynch tomorrow; basically IF there is a four-player Scum team, Normal is very likely to be on it; if we turn out to be wrong, it’s likely that we will have another day to try again. I see your reasoning for not thinking Normal and Red are both scum, but is there a particular reason you don’t think the scum could be Normal, Pleo, and Ed? Oh, and forgive my ignorance, but in: > [@](#): > > […] because I don’t know that Hirka would bus Red right at the outset at Lynch or Lose. What does “bus” mean? I assume by usage you mean vote for, but can you explain the actual term, and what it means? (sorry, first game, still trying to learn). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228.md?page=23)