# Thundercats Mafia Gameplay Thread \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228 "2011-04-21T14:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/441 "2011-05-06T01:03:47Z")
To “bus” someone is to “throw X in front of the bus”; it refers to a scum player deliberately working to lynch another scum player in order to gain credit with the Town (or “Town cred”). Thus, I am saying that I don’t believe that Pleonast’s pursuit of Ed in days 2 and 3 seems like a Scum player trying to get another Scum player lynched. But I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/442 "2011-05-06T01:08:20Z")
Ah, ok. Thanks… Oh, and I would vote against a “kill Hirka” plan, I liked your “kill Normal” plan MUCH better! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/443 "2011-05-06T01:13:38Z")
> [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](#): > > is there a particular reason you don’t think the scum could be Normal, Pleo, and Ed? And this is because I don’t think Pleo and Ed are both scum, because Pleo has been attempting to get Ed lynched the past two days. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/444 "2011-05-06T02:17:14Z")
Hey, I am taking a trip to Cleveland tomorrow for the whole day. I will not be here at Dawn, but will be here Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/445 "2011-05-06T02:37:33Z")
**Mahaloth** will you be able to post any results from your sword of omens? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/446 "2011-05-06T02:43:21Z")
> [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](#): > > **Mahaloth** will you be able to post any results from your sword of omens? Well, yeah, but not on Friday. Just wait 'til Saturday. It’s not that confusing. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/447 "2011-05-06T14:02:18Z")
Just a reminder that Night actions are due by Dawn, which is at 3pm CST today. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/448 "2011-05-06T15:18:21Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > “Not strictly accurate”? That’s a political way to say that. How about false, incorrect, inaccurate, untrue? > > How do you define trumped up? I define it as “trumped-up(a): concocted with intent to deceive”. He’s created a bit of hyperbole to make what I actually did sound worse than it was. It was bad enough for a legitimate vote on its own. > [@](#): > > If he had said his objection was “that i voted late on the vote leader without explanation” that would be a horse of a different color. Instead he said “I feel red skeezix is acing scummy by voting for the vote leader, with no explination why, and waiting to the last seconds.” Sorry, but that’s not what I did. Saying I did something that I didn’t do and then voting for that pretend reason, it’s scummy. You’re splitting hairs. “Waiting to the last seconds” is not inaccurate in any way that matters to why he says he’s voting for you. You’re attacking a straw man. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/449 "2011-05-06T15:19:57Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Quickie review of Inner, and all I get is that it makes me think **Jimmy** is more likely to be Town & less likely to be the Godfather; Inner’s vote pushed Jimmy to 3-2 up in the voting. Ed’s vote on Pleo and my & Hirka’s votes on Ed both came later. Agreed; I’d probably have to be at 3-handed with Jimmy still alive and no sign of a godfather to consider it. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/450 "2011-05-06T16:15:22Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So. IF Jimmy is Town AND there is a four-person Scum team, that means that three of Ed, Pleo, Normal, Red, and Hirka are Scum. Don’t forget the possibility of just two (more): if Panthro is in, it’s probably four; if Panthro is not, it’s probably three. > [@](#): > > I don’t think Ed and Pleo are both Scum; Pleo’s attempts to get Ed lynched don’t strike me as bus-like. Though with Pleo, you never know. I wouldn’t put it top of my priority list either. > [@](#): > > I think it’s unlikely that Normal and Red are both Scum, unless Hirka and Red are both scum; Normal did her best to drive the lynch towards Red when Maha and I had agreed to resort to Lynch the Lurker. That was actually a cross-post; I didn’t see the Inner comments until after I’d completed the review of Red’s posts. I don’t know if that changes your conclusions or not. I can’t see it from your perspective. From mine, Red’s attack on Hirka is to me so missing the point that I could see it as a bussing. Vice versa, though? Not so sure. > [@](#): > > If Normal is Scum I’m pretty sure Hirka is as well. (but not necessarily vice versa). > I also don’t think Hirka and Red are likely to both be Scum; partially because I don’t think ALL the lurkers were Scum, and partially because I don’t know that Hirka would bus Red right at the outset at Lynch or Lose. Agreed if it was lynch or lose there’s not much sense in that. > [@](#): > > So, three-person scum teams that strike me as probable: > Normal, Hirka, Pleo > Normal, Hirka, Ed > Red, Pleo, Ed (less so) Either Pleo’s been bussing the heck out of Ed all game; Hirka and Red played at cross-bussing at LYLO, or there are only three scum. The latter looks most likely to me, and that changes all of your assumptions. I see your reasoning about the potential LYLO situation tomorrow, but that doesn’t make the prospect of being lynched as town any more pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/451 "2011-05-06T16:16:44Z")
Sorry for and also good work during my unforeseen absence there, everybody. Found myself called across the state on short notice. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/452 "2011-05-06T16:22:04Z")
Hope it wasn’t anything serious/tragic. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/453 "2011-05-06T16:42:24Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I see your reasoning about the potential LYLO situation tomorrow, but that doesn’t make the prospect of being lynched as town any more pleasant. I hear you. If you actually ARE Town, I think that will make the first time we’ve been on the same side in a Mafia game. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/454 "2011-05-06T20:09:41Z")
Two voices cry out in panic in the darkness, as the room is again lit with eerie red mist. By the time the Altar is visible, you can see the shadowy forms of **Tom Scud** and **Astral Rejection** nearly completely gone, quickly dissipating into the forms of two young Thundercats. They have no time to speak a word before disappearing completely in a searing flash of blue. As the mist fades again into darkness and a white light appears above the Altar of Truth, the chamber is silent, if only for a moment… **Tom Scud** , Wilykit (Good team) and **Astral Rejection** , Wilykat (Good team) have been banished. Day Four ends on Tuesday, May 10 at 11am CST. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/455 "2011-05-06T20:10:52Z")
Go Town! Hope Lion-O found something good for you! ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/456 "2011-05-06T20:11:15Z")
1. Pleonast 2. [del]Zeriel[/del] Sub: Hirka T’Bawa 3. Mahaloth 4. Normal Phase 5. special ed 6. Red Skeezix 7. [del]pedescribe [/del] Sub: Jimmy Chitwood glowacks, a Wollo [Good], was banished on Day One. Wolverine, Snowman of Hook Mountain [Good], was banished on Night One. Giraffe, Snarfer [Good] was banished on Day Two. fubbleskag, Snarf [Good] was banished on Night Two. Inner Stickler, Vultureman (Evil) was banished Day Three. Tom Scud, Wilykit (Good) was banished Night Three. Astral Rejection, Wilykat (Good) was banished Night Three. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/457 "2011-05-06T20:40:09Z")
**Vote Wolverine.** What’s that? He’s dead? Whats that? I’M DEAD?!?! Good luck, town! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/458 "2011-05-06T21:10:09Z")
So, we’re either at 4 vs 3 and lynch or lose, or 5 vs 2 and have one spare mislynch. We each basically have to look at the six other players and find 2 or 3 scum. I won’t be on much over the weekend, but I’ll put my initial thoughts out. 1. [del]Zeriel[/del] Sub: **Hirka T’Bawa** I’m slightly more suspicious than not, but not a lot I can point to as why. Besides their Day One vote for lousy reasons, their agreement with my assessment of **ed** and **Red** as likely scum bugs me. It feels like scum playing it safe. 2. **Mahaloth** Confirmed and should not be on anyone’s lynch list. Besides the uncounterclaimed role, the lynch leadership on **Inner** is a major victory for us. However, there is a tiny chance that they are scum and we have no investigator (extra tiny because our masons were double-killed, and even tinier if we lynch a godfather). I expect this will be resolved by their death before we need to seriously consider the possibility. But if we get down to 3 players and **Mahaloth** is still alive and no godfather has been found, do not discount it completely. 3. **Normal Phase** Expressed suspicion on **Inner** before **Mahaloth** started pushing that lynch. Also made decent case against **Red**. Nothing they’ve done has really stood out as suspicious. Slight town feel overall. If we don’t get a scum result, I hope **Mahaloth** investigated them, just so we can focus on the (in my opinion) more likely scum. 4. **special ed** Has yet to cast a vote with any case behind it. Nor any analysis. While YesterDay netted us scum, the voting was a give-me to the other scum. Even **Red** , who’s been participating minimally managed to make some comments about who they felt were suspicious. Not **ed**. I’m not sure what else to say, I don’t see anything pro-town about them this game. **vote special ed** 5. **Red Skeezix** Their participation YesterDay makes me think they might be town, so not sharing the top of the list with **ed** at the moment for me. I’m still highly skeptical, though. 6. [del]pedescribe [/del] Sub: **Jimmy Chitwood** I was not getting scummy feel from them, despite their poor attack on me. With the investigation result, not on the lynch list until we’re down to finding the godfather. In summary: I really think we need to lynch **ed**. No way they’re not scum. And I think **Red** and/or **Hirka** are the remaining scum. It’ll have to be a good case on **Normal** for me to vote that way. I’m not feeling the lynch on **Jimmy** until we’re down to the godfather. And I won’t even consider voting for **Mahaloth** until we’re at 3-handed. ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/459 "2011-05-06T22:17:48Z")
Getting ready to go out with my wife to dinner and a movie, so probably won’t have a chance to post again tonight, and if I do it would be from my phone. So, let me get my thoughts down now. > [@Pleonast](#): > > So, we’re either at 4 vs 3 and lynch or lose, or 5 vs 2 and have one spare mislynch. We each basically have to look at the six other players and find 2 or 3 scum. I’m thinking we have 2 scum left. I agree with Normal’s comment yesterday that there were be 4 if we had panthro, but only 3 if no panthro. Based off the death of the martyr after Mahaloth claim, and Fluiddruids comments, I don’t think we have panthro, so only 2 scum remaining. > [@](#): > > 1. [del]Zeriel[/del] Sub: **Hirka T’Bawa** > I’m slightly more suspicious than not, but not a lot I can point to as why. Besides their Day One vote for lousy reasons, their agreement with my assessment of **ed** and **Red** as likely scum bugs me. It feels like scum playing it safe. If the main reason I’m on your radar is my agreement of your assessments, then I don’t think that is a good reason. I am new to this game, first time I’ve ever played. I’ve been looking at other peoples analysis, and trying to weigh them as good or bad. I don’t have enough experience in this game so far to make a good analysis myself, so have been making most of my decisions off y’alls analysis (with more weight given to confirmed town of course). > [@](#): > > 1. **Mahaloth** > Confirmed and should not be on anyone’s lynch list. Agreed, he’s as confirmed as you can be and not dead. > [@](#): > > 1. **Normal Phase** > Expressed suspicion on **Inner** before **Mahaloth** started pushing that lynch. Also made decent case against **Red**. Nothing they’ve done has really stood out as suspicious. Slight town feel overall. If we don’t get a scum result, I hope **Mahaloth** investigated them, just so we can focus on the (in my opinion) more likely scum. I haven’t gotten a scum vibe from Normal either, and have gotten a slight town vibe. So, at this point I’m not going to vote for him either, unless someone makes a really REALLY good case for him > [@](#): > > 1. **special ed** > Has yet to cast a vote with any case behind it. Nor any analysis. While YesterDay netted us scum, the voting was a give-me to the other scum. Even **Red** , who’s been participating minimally managed to make some comments about who they felt were suspicious. Not **ed**. I’m not sure what else to say, I don’t see anything pro-town about them this game. Ed has looked scummy to me also, and I still agree with Giraffe’s comment on day 2 that there was at least one scum on the Glo lynch. Ed and Red have both voted for the town lynches, so they are at the top of my list. The only thing that gives me a slight pause on a Ed lynch is his “claim” to be Tygra, which was never counter-claimed… However, that could just as easily been a gamble by a godfather that there wasn’t a “Tygra” in the game, knowing that if he was investigated he would show as trustworthy. > [@](#): > > 1. **Red Skeezix** > Their participation YesterDay makes me think they might be town, so not sharing the top of the list with **ed** at the moment for me. I’m still highly skeptical, though. Right now, Red is the top of my list, besides the fact that he has voted for both the town lynches, his argument rebutting my voting for him yesterday seemed very weak to me, and as Normal said, his argument is a straw man. > [@](#): > > 1. [del]pedescribe [/del] Sub: **Jimmy Chitwood** > I was not getting scummy feel from them, despite their poor attack on me. With the investigation result, not on the lynch list until we’re down to finding the godfather. I don’t have much opinion on Jimmy either way, and since he investigated town, I’m not going to give him much thought for now. As for **Pleonast** , while you are higher on my list then others, you’ve been very insistent on lynching Ed the past few days. I would think scum would possibly go more with the flow, after seeing the way the wind blows, then trying to get one particular person lynched. I think it is more likely someone else is scum then you are, but not enough to count you as “town” in my head. So, I’m leaning mostly towards Red, however, I wouldn’t be opposed to an Ed lynch. So, for now: Vote Red Skeezix However, I am willing to be talked into changing my vote to Ed. Though, this all changes if Mahaloth finds scum. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thundercats-mafia-gameplay-thread-game-over/579228/460 "2011-05-07T00:57:23Z")
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