# Tiffany Smiley, you lying bitch
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 5, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787 "2022-10-05T23:39:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/21 "2022-10-06T06:58:01Z")
> [@aruvqan](#):
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> > [@Sylvanz](#):
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> > She also believes that demon possession can be passed through sex
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> Wasn’t that in a horror/SF film recently [i.e. the past 6 or 7 years]
Fairly certain you’re remembering _It Follows._
> **[It Follows](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Follows)**
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> It Follows is a 2014 American horror film written and directed by David Robert Mitchell. It stars Maika Monroe as a young woman who is pursued by a supernatural entity after a sexual encounter. Keir Gilchrist, Daniel Zovatto, Jake Weary, Olivia Luccardi, and Lili Sepe appear in supporting roles. It Follows debuted at the 2014 Cannes Film Festival and was later purchased by Radius-TWC for distribution. After a successful limited release, the film had a wide release two weeks later on March 27, 201...
Pretty good atmospheric horror movie with an interesting thematic angle, even if the mechanics of the narrative don’t make a lick of sense if you spend more than five minutes thinking about them.
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/22 "2022-10-06T07:09:11Z")
> [@Spoons](#):
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> No mention is made of what she will work towards, policies she supports or will help to implement if elected; it’s just “We’re all doomed if you don’t vote Republican!”
Of course they don’t promise anything of substance. The 2016 election should’ve taught you what they’ve learned: just run the con, promise things will (a) get better if you go with me, or (b) things will get worse if you don’t go with me. Today’s Republican party is a con.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/23 "2022-10-06T08:08:16Z")
> [@Monty](#):
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> The 2016 election should’ve taught you what they’ve learned: just run the con, promise things will (a) get better if you go with me, or (b) things will get worse if you don’t go with me. Today’s Republican party is a con.
Dana Loesch admitted as much earlier today. The Republican party no longer has any morals or beliefs - the only thing they value is power for its own sake.
> **[Dana Loesch doesn't care if Herschel Walker paid 'skank' for abortion](https://www.newsweek.com/dana-loesch-doesnt-care-herschel-walker-paid-skank-abortion-1749023)**
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> The Republican nominee has denied the claims, and has threatened to sue at least one media outlet for defamation.
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/24 "2022-10-06T08:36:23Z")
> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Fairly certain you’re remembering _It Follows._
Also, the Denzel one was **Fallen**.
> **[Fallen (1998 film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_(1998_film))**
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> Fallen is a 1998 American supernatural thriller film directed by Gregory Hoblit, produced by Charles Roven and Dawn Steel, from a screenplay by Nicholas Kazan. Denzel Washington plays a Philadelphia police detective who is investigating occult murders committed by an apparent copycat killer. John Goodman, Donald Sutherland, Embeth Davidtz, James Gandolfini and Elias Koteas also star. Warner Bros. released Fallen on January 16, 1998. Despite the movie’s underperformance at the box office, Falle
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/25 "2022-10-06T08:54:20Z")
> [@racer72](#):
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> Now she is claiming Biden and Murray are going to hire 87,000 new IRS agents to come after the middle class. Bold fucking lies.
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Huh! Arizona has a candidate with the same sounding commercial. IRS agents targeting YOU!
> [@naita](#):
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> This also features heavily in Ted Budd ads against Cheri Beasley.
We’re getting similar ads here in Northwest Indiana. I’m not even sure if these ads are _for_ a Rethuglican candidate or just trying to scare people about Biden and Democrats (specifically Frank Mrvan, an incumbent Democrat).
> [@Spoons](#):
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> Apparently, Biden is hiring 87,000 IRS agents to “make you pay for somebody else’s law school.” What the hell is that all about?
The Democrats increased funding to the IRS to hire more agents to deal with tax _fraud_ and evasion. They’ll actually be looking more at the wealthy than the middle class, and that’s why some wealthy donors are funding these ads, they’re concerned their chicanery may come to light.
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/26 "2022-10-06T09:53:25Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> We’re getting similar ads here in Northwest Indiana.
Looks like Sinclair Broadcast Group is expanding their operations.
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### Author:  [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/27 "2022-10-06T10:37:09Z")
not 'merican so cant speak of the specifics …
but let me say this:
if some 25 years ago (be4 the web went really mainstream) - somebody had predicted it’s importance and omnipresence, my answer would have been _“… great, now we will all be smarter, have the means to do instant fact checking and access to information - also the lower classes will be better off, b/c basically free access to information and knowledge - a huge democratization/equalization tool”_ …
now I read this shit … **how is that even possible in “non-fringe” america**. Trumps legacy will be that: HE MOVED THE GOALPOSTS SO FAR INTO LOONYLAND, **EVERYTHING GOES TODAY** - YOU JUST NEED TO GET ON THIS TRAIN (AND LEAVE YOUR CONSCIOUS AT HOME)
… we are not talking about Somalia or some poor country w/ very limited education that might have cultural barriers and beliefs of witchcraft and evil eyes or so
… but mainstream cable-tv america forchristsake!!!
Using a local saying “I cannot eat as much food as I’d like to vomit from this”
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/28 "2022-10-06T10:59:21Z")
Just noting that the same basic ad is running here in New England. It’s not just Tiffany Smiley, it’s mainstream Republicans.
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### Author:  [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/29 "2022-10-06T10:59:22Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> She also believes that demon possession can be passed through sex
I fear my sex life has missed something important. Ah, well, it is probably too late now. But I sure would have tried that when I was younger, had somebody offered to teach me this trick.
> [@Al128](#):
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> Using a local saying “I cannot eat as much food as I’d like to vomit from this”
Ah, yes, [Max Liebermann](https://gutezitate.com/zitat/234531)! How right he was then, how prescient it is now.
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### Author:  [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/30 "2022-10-06T11:01:28Z")
That’s the same message the opponent running against Sharie Beasley in NC is using. Are GOP candidates copying each other’s platform pitches nationwide, or is this a unified effort?
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/31 "2022-10-06T11:14:38Z")
A certain word is right on the tip of my tongue…“something…mind”?
I’m sure it will come to me.
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### Author:  [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/32 "2022-10-06T11:42:10Z")
The 87,000 IRS agents has also been used in Ohio against Tim Ryan. As stated above, just a big con.
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### Author:  [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/33 "2022-10-06T12:27:38Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> > [@Spoons](#):
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> > Apparently, Biden is hiring 87,000 IRS agents to “make you pay for somebody else’s law school.” What the hell is that all about?
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> The Democrats increased funding to the IRS to hire more agents to deal with tax _fraud_ and evasion. They’ll actually be looking more at the wealthy than the middle class
And it’s trying to conflate it with the student loan forgiveness, which as it happens is actually targeted at the **lower** -earning former students.
The “87,000 agents coming after you”(\*) talking point is standard boilerplate this year, yet another element in the nationalizing of the state/local elections – don’t vote for what your schools need or about your state’s pension fund, vote based about that there’s scary BLM/Trans/Illegal people somewhere your children are being taught about without telling you and the other guy is a Pelosi/Biden/Soros proxy who will forbid you from taking your gun to church when the Dems come to round you up to take what little you have and give it to some welfare queen. Jesus Guns Babies! MAGA!!!
(\* Freedom/Q/MAGA-caucus members may add “armed” to taste.)
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### Author:  [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/34 "2022-10-06T13:03:30Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> The “87,000 agents coming after you”(\*) talking point is standard boilerplate this year
And it’s not even 87,000 agents - it’s 87,000 employees, some of whom will be agents. Apparently, a lot of them are replacements for office type folks - I think filling already approved positions for which there wasn’t budget to hire for.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/35 "2022-10-06T13:10:16Z")
Actually, if the IRS actually did hire 87,000 agents, that would be a _good_ thing, as reducing fraud and tax evasion means a lower government deficit. I pay my taxes in full, and think everyone else should as well. (I can’t really cheat; everything I earn is reported on a W2 or 1099, as it’s all either wages, interest income or investment income.)
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/36 "2022-10-06T14:16:19Z")
An anti-Smiley commercial plays audio of Smiley saying, ‘I’m a hundred percent pro-life.’ I swear it almost sounds as if she’s saying ‘pro-White’.
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### Author:  [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/37 "2022-10-06T15:11:13Z")
I was wonder where that 87,000 number came from. In 2012, the IRS had a total of about 87,000 employees. Between now and then, the IRS has lost about 12.9% of there employees. From what I read before posting the OP, Biden wants to bring the agency back up to it’s full complement of employees, this won’t happen till about 2031. Most will work with modernizing the IRS, they also want to increase enforcement due to a large increase in fraud and theft in recent years. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy started this BS when he claimed the IRS is hiring 87,000 new agents to come after those making less that $75,000 a year. The Republican party is now running with this misinformation.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/38 "2022-10-06T15:16:19Z")
The people who believe in supply-side economics can’t really be expected to be good at math.
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### Author:  [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/39 "2022-10-06T15:58:35Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Arizona has a candidate with the same sounding commercial. IRS agents targeting YOU!
I saw that pop up in a letter to the paper in upstate New York. I haven’t been watching whatever the letterwriter has, but as others have said that claim is all over. Like many such, it takes a tiny seed of something actually happening and wildly misstates the context so as to turn a small bit of truth into a large lie.
Here’s Time on the subject:
> **[No, Biden is Not Hiring 87,000 New IRS Agents](https://time.com/6204928/irs-87000-agents-factcheck-biden/)**
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> It's a false claim being spread by prominent Republicans after the FBI searched Trump's home.
> The [Inflation Reduction Act](https://time.com/6204537/inflation-reduction-act-whats-in-it/), a landmark climate, health care and tax package that passed the Senate on Sunday and is expected to head to Biden’s desk after the House approves it on Friday, includes roughly $78 billion for the IRS to be phased in over 10 years. A Treasury Department [report](https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/The-American-Families-Plan-Tax-Compliance-Agenda.pdf) from May 2021 estimated that such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.
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> According to a Treasury Department official, the funds would cover a wide range of positions including IT technicians and taxpayer services support staff, as well as experienced auditors who would be largely tasked with cracking down on corporate and high-income tax evaders.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiffany-smiley-you-lying-bitch/972787/40 "2022-10-06T20:15:11Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> That’s the same message the opponent running against Sharie Beasley in NC is using. Are GOP candidates copying each other’s platform pitches nationwide, or is this a unified effort?
My guess is some from column A, some from column B… They do compare notes, after all.
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