# Tiger is back. all Hail tiger

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 5, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614 "2011-08-05T17:38:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/61 "2011-08-09T01:48:05Z")

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You people are going to be disappointed when Tiger wins the next major.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/62 "2011-08-09T04:30:01Z")

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I won’t. I’m actually a little disappointed we never got a passing-of-the-crown moment, a la Takahanada beating Chiyonofuji in their only encounter or Evander Holyfield dominating Buster Douglas and Mike Tyson. (I think we can now agree that Angel Cabrera was a fluke, no?) He had 14 majors by a ridiculously young age and then shot everything to hell.

Now he’s starting from scratch; no aura of invincibility, no shady rulings, no mobs of fans willing to move a boulder for him (seriously, that actually happened once). If he does ever win another major…and I have absolutely no idea if this is going to happen…he’ll have earned it. Should be fun to watch in any case.

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/63 "2011-08-09T07:58:05Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Now he’s starting from scratch; no aura of invincibility, no shady rulings, no mobs of fans willing to move a boulder for him (seriously, that actually happened once). If he does ever win another major…and I have absolutely no idea if this is going to happen…he’ll have earned it. Should be fun to watch in any case.

You seem to be confusing “shady rulings” with your own hazy knowledge of the rules.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/64 "2011-08-09T13:56:22Z")

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Admittedly “Spirit of the Rules” is nebulous at best, but IMO, the boulder (as a loose impediment) and the ball on the clubhouse roof at Akron was in not within the spirit of the rules. YMMV of course.

And **Gonzo** , Tiger better hurry and find a golf game if he is going to win the next major. It is this week.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/65 "2011-08-09T16:03:12Z")

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Plenty of time.

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/66 "2011-08-09T16:44:00Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Plenty of time.

I want Tiger to win as much as anyone, but this will not be his week. The consensus on Atlanta is that driving will be at a premium this week, and that is the worst part of Tiger’s game.

The good news is that he’s apparently healthy, and thanks to Steve, has plenty of motivation. I expect him back in the winner’s circle next year.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/67 "2011-08-12T23:08:37Z")

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[He failed to make the cut at the PGA Championship](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GLF_PGA_CHAMPIONSHIP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-12-19-02-07).

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/68 "2011-08-12T23:48:04Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [He failed to make the cut at the PGA Championship](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GLF_PGA_CHAMPIONSHIP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-12-19-02-07).

Too bad, but not a big surprise.

The biggest surprise for me was Ryo Ishikawa shooting an 85 yesterday, after playing so well last week.

And the three guys who were supposed to dominate this year — Dustin Johnson, Martin Kaymer, and Graeme McDowell — all MC’d as well.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/69 "2011-08-12T23:48:56Z")

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That course looks BRUTAL!! I’m pretty familiar with the courses these guys play on a regular basis, but I don’t recognize this one.

Buh-bye, Tiger.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/70 "2011-08-12T23:59:03Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That course looks BRUTAL!! I’m pretty familiar with the courses these guys play on a regular basis, but I don’t recognize this one.
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> Buh-bye, Tiger.

actually if you stripe 'em about 290 or so and then have some decent distance control it plays kind of easy. of course, youv’e got to have mr. short stick comply as well.

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/71 "2011-08-13T00:00:57Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> actually if you stripe 'em about 290 or so and then have some decent distance control it plays kind of easy. of course, youv’e got to have mr. short stick comply as well.

Dang, I only hit it 289.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/72 "2011-08-13T01:02:11Z")

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mr short stick always complies with me. . . . . Oh you are talking about the putter.

The 18th hole is a very poorly designed golf hole. But its Rees Jones what do you expect. It should either be 50 yds longer an a par 5, or have a driving area about 10 yds wider. Players are laying up off the tee because of the fairway width, leaving them a 200+ forced carry. I am not too concerned whether they call it a par 4 or par 5, it doesn’t matter, a turd by any other name would smell as bad.

I guess it is a par 5 for the membership, but I imagine most of the better players laying up with a 7 or 8 iron and pitching it to the green as there is no bail out to go for the green in two.

It looks Tiger is done on the US Tour for 2011. Small chance he might play in a fall Series event, but I doubt it. The folks at the Chevron Challenge might have to find a loophole in the OWGR requirements so they can invite Tiger.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/73 "2011-08-13T01:37:49Z")

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Jack’s record is safe-sorry, no attempt this time to soften that with weasel words, Tiger simply isn’t catching him. I was going to write that he might win another major, maybe two, but frankly I don’t think he’s going to do even that. Sad in a way-part of me was pulling for him to do it, even tho Jack was my idol when I was a teen-I just don’t see him getting his crap together again, mentally or physically.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/74 "2011-08-13T02:31:35Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> mr short stick always complies with me. . . . . Oh you are talking about the putter.
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> The 18th hole is a very poorly designed golf hole. But its Rees Jones what do you expect. It should either be 50 yds longer an a par 5, or have a driving area about 10 yds wider. Players are laying up off the tee because of the fairway width, leaving them a 200+ forced carry. I am not too concerned whether they call it a par 4 or par 5, it doesn’t matter, a turd by any other name would smell as bad.

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and as usual we can’t be more disagreeable. i love the durn hole. typical risk reward rees stuff. i mean fuck we aren’t playing against the card. and if you want to pussy out and try for four with an 8 iron and i am a stroke back you can bet the house that i am gripping and ripping.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/75 "2011-08-13T02:40:32Z")

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it’s kind of like 18 at silverhorn from the tippies. bust one and you’ve got a 200+ carry to make the green. put it on the right side and you have legitimate chance for 3. plug it in front bunker and you will be lucky to make 6. or play conservative and hope that a wedge gets you 4. i like a 3 shot swinger on 18.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/76 "2011-08-13T15:14:01Z")

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Tiger is back. Well back in Florida.

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/77 "2011-08-13T16:00:30Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Jack’s record is safe-sorry, no attempt this time to soften that with weasel words, Tiger simply isn’t catching him.

Way too early to make that call. He’s just 35, and he’s only been practicing for three weeks. The last two times he made radical swing changes, it took him a couple of years of practice to internalize them, and that was without injuries.

We’ve never seen this from Tiger before, but it’s normal for every other golfer. You look like Hogan one week, and Hogan’s mom the next. Most pros miss more cuts in a season than Tiger has in his career.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/78 "2011-08-14T22:48:30Z")

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Wow is Dufner gasping for air. He is leaking on all cylinders.

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/79 "2011-08-15T00:28:47Z")

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> [@brocks](#):
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> Most pros miss more cuts in a season than Tiger has in his career.

Keegan Bradley, 2011 PGA Champion, 8 missed cuts this year (so far).

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-is-back-all-hail-tiger/591614/80 "2011-08-15T00:50:59Z")

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> [@brocks](#):
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> Keegan Bradley, 2011 PGA Champion, 8 missed cuts this year (so far).

The new Tiger is born.

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