# Tiger Man.... too stupid to be true? Please?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 7, 2001, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226 "2001-08-07T03:59:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2001, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/61 "2001-08-10T05:33:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hibbins \*  
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> > I just think he looks funny, and not at all like a tiger. I don’t see who it hurts by saying it here.
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> Holly schmolly! You’re kidding right? I’d agree with your comment if you removed the first six words. I have no problem discussing the quality and accuracy of what he has done, but offering him up for ridicule is a bit excessive.
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> Would you agree with your statement if you were the subject rather than Tiger Man? Somehow I don’t think so. I know I’d be hurt/offended if someone started a thread to ridicule how I look. \*\*

If you’re willing to alter your body as much as tiger man I doubt you’re sensitive about people making fun of your looks. And you know what? If you make yourself a freak on purpose then you can expect people to make fun of you.

Marc

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/62 "2001-08-11T05:32:56Z")

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But to casually suggest how much fun it would be to beat the living shit out of you? That would alarm me if I had a freaking _pineapple tree_ growing out of my head.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/63 "2001-08-11T06:43:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> \*\*But to casually suggest how much fun it would be to beat the living shit out of you? That would alarm me if I had a freaking _pineapple tree_ growing out of my head. \*\*

Well you gotta point there. But I don’t think Bill H, or whoever it was, was seriously suggesting that. Unless I missed something.

Marc

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/64 "2001-08-11T07:09:37Z")

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> Bill H, or whoever it was

Whoever it was. You’ve pegged me on the wrong side of this.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/65 "2001-08-11T09:15:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bill H. \*  
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> > Bill H, or whoever it was
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> Whoever it was. You’ve pegged me on the wrong side of this. \*\*

It was an accident. I apologize.

Marc

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**Author:** ![ageless6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@ageless6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ageless6)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/66 "2001-08-11T09:57:40Z")

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I personally find this thread revolting. I have had extensive surgery to make me into a perfect replica of a banana slug, complete with slime. But I would never publish a picture of myself. When I ventured outside my cave for the first time, I was observed by some campers who ran off shrieking when I simply said “hello” to them. Later I found the trail littered with bags of marijuana and tabs of LSD. These were appreciated.  
I go through keyboards quickly, as they tend to become very sticky.  
Anyway, I pretty much stay in my cave,now. I bet I could make a tiger person run away,though.

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**Author:** ![drpepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@drpepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drpepper)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/67 "2001-08-11T15:26:34Z")

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What a lot of people don’t think about re. ‘Tiger Man’, ‘Lizard Man’, etc:

For the same reason Seinfeld said he could never be ‘Orgy Guy’ , I have to chuckle when I think about Tiger Man doing the more mundane things in life. The glamor, if you will, sort of wears off. Imagine Tiger Man doing the following routine tasks:

- Cashing a check at the bank
- Going grocery shopping [and buying, say, a gallon of milk; a bottle of pepto bismol; insert boring product here]
- Going to the doctor for a routine proctoscopy.
- Undergoing software training at a new job.
- Standing in line to renew his drivers license.

Me? I’d feel a little foolish.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/68 "2001-08-11T20:59:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ageless6 \*  
> \*\*I personally find this thread revolting. I have had extensive surgery to make me into a perfect replica of a banana slug, complete with slime. But I would never publish a picture of myself. When I ventured outside my cave for the first time, I was observed by some campers who ran off shrieking when I simply said “hello” to them. Later I found the trail littered with bags of marijuana and tabs of LSD. These were appreciated.  
> I go through keyboards quickly, as they tend to become very sticky.  
> Anyway, I pretty much stay in my cave,now. I bet I could make a tiger person run away,though. \*\*

I’ve got a bottle of salt with your name on it.

Marc

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**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/69 "2001-08-11T23:47:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by drpepper \*  
> \*\*What a lot of people don’t think about re. ‘Tiger Man’, ‘Lizard Man’, etc:
> 
> For the same reason Seinfeld said he could never be ‘Orgy Guy’ , I have to chuckle when I think about Tiger Man doing the more mundane things in life. The glamor, if you will, sort of wears off. Imagine Tiger Man doing the following routine tasks:
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> - Cashing a check at the bank
> - Going grocery shopping [and buying, say, a gallon of milk; a bottle of pepto bismol; insert boring product here]
> - Going to the doctor for a routine proctoscopy.
> - Undergoing software training at a new job.
> - Standing in line to renew his drivers license.
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> Me? I’d feel a little foolish. \*\*

Well, at least they’d be able to verify his identity pretty certainly.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2001, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/70 "2001-08-12T01:17:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hibbins \*  
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> Would you agree with your statement if you were the subject rather than Tiger Man? Somehow I don’t think so. I know I’d be hurt/offended if someone started a thread to ridicule how I look. \*\*

Yes, I would still agree with it. I wouldn’t mind being teased or even made fun of, especially not if I didn’t even know the people involved (such as some random strangers on a message board I don’t even frequent). I’m not telling him to change or threatening him or denying him anything because of how he looks. I think that some people take the “PC” concept too far. IOW, lighten up.

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**Author:** ![Hibbins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ce73a5/32.png) [@Hibbins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hibbins)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2001, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/71 "2001-08-13T18:06:15Z")

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> _Originally posted by OpalCat_  
> I think that some people take the “PC” concept too far. IOW, lighten up.

Lighten up??? Are you making fun of my weight??? 😉

Personally I hate PC speech. Say what you want how you want, but be responsible for how/what you’ve said.

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> _Originally posted by OpalCat_  
> I’m not telling him to change or threatening him or denying him anything because of how he looks.

No, your just making fun of him simply because of the way he wishes to express himself. Why/how are you more qualified to draw the line between “teasing” and harassment. Someone called him a freak, who decides who the freaks are? **I** think he may be a bit socially maladjusted (a srew loose), and he certainly looks odd, even freaky. But, I don’t think it’s my place or right to organize a ridicule party in his name.

I get your point. Do you get mine?

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2001, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/72 "2001-08-13T18:20:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> … if I had a freaking _pineapple tree_ growing out of my head.

As info (and because I’m feeling nitpicky), pineapples don’t grow on trees.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2001, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/73 "2001-08-13T23:26:47Z")

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I know, actually. It was sort of the “dead cow/dead steer” bit. Pineapple tree = funny. Pineapple parent plant = stupid.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/74 "2001-08-13T23:31:40Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Hibbins \*  
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> Why/how are you more qualified to draw the line between “teasing” and harassment. \*\*

Somehow I don’t think it can be considered harrassment. If a group of people on a message board I don’t even read were to make fun of me, that wouldn’t be harrassment. You have to actually interact with someone to harrass them.

As for who defines freak… everybody defines it for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Hibbins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ce73a5/32.png) [@Hibbins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hibbins)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2001, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/75 "2001-08-14T14:33:49Z")

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I believe I have gotten your point.

You feel it is acceptable to get together to ridicule a person/persons as long as you don’t do it in their presence.

I really don’t care what your particular opinion of Tiger Man is you’re entitled to it.

I do think you were wrong to invite a bunch of people to get together in a public forum for the purpose of ridiculing an individual.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2001, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/76 "2001-08-14T14:57:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hibbins \*  
> **You feel it is acceptable to get together to ridicule a person/persons as long as you don’t do it in their presence.**

That’s a bit broader than my feelings. In this case, we don’t even know him, he doesn’t know us, therefore no one could get hurt here. It would be different if, say, we were making fun of a coworker or something.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2001, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/77 "2001-08-14T15:18:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by OpalCat \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Hibbins \*  
> > **You feel it is acceptable to get together to ridicule a person/persons as long as you don’t do it in their presence.**
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> That’s a bit broader than my feelings. In this case, we don’t even know him, he doesn’t know us, therefore no one could get hurt here. It would be different if, say, we were making fun of a coworker or something. \*\*

I disagree. Threads like this reinforce the perception that it is OK to ridicule those we find different. Even if you personally would never take it further than a post to a message board that the tiger man would never read (though who’s to say he isn’t amongst us?), you encourage others to do so by fostering an “us against them” attitude.

Furthermore and more fundamentally it adds to a general undercurrent that those of us who are different are undesirable.

It isn’t as simple as “he’ll never read it so it’ll never hurt him”. _Someone_ will read it, it will feed their prejudices against those who are different, they will reinforce those beliefs in their peer group and then someone else will hurt a totally different “weirdo”. Relationships are subtle and complex things.

pan

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**Author:** ![Hibbins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ce73a5/32.png) [@Hibbins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hibbins)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2001, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/78 "2001-08-14T18:49:31Z")

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Yeah, what kabbes said.

The ideas seem so clear in my mind and yet get so muddled when I put them in words.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2001, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/79 "2001-08-14T20:08:12Z")

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I just _know_ that dude smokes pot.

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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2001, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-man-too-stupid-to-be-true-please/75226/80 "2001-08-14T20:45:48Z")

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So, are you saying that all of your neighbors that you haven’t yet met can make fun of the way you look and dress, as long as they do it behind your back?

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