# Tiger Woods injured

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 27, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163 "2009-11-27T19:39:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/221 "2009-12-02T00:49:23Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> If the hydrant is public property it makes sense he’d get a ticket for hitting it.

That’s a good question.  
My take is as follows.  
I buy and install a mailbox at the end of my driveway. It is MY mailbox.  
The Mailman delivers my mail by putting it in MY mailbox. The mail is now MINE.  
Anyone care to differ?🙂

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/222 "2009-12-02T01:33:57Z")

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> [@ltfire](#):
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> That’s a good question.  
> My take is as follows.  
> I buy and install a mailbox at the end of my driveway. It is MY mailbox.  
> The Mailman delivers my mail by putting it in MY mailbox. The mail is now MINE.  
> Anyone care to differ?🙂

So long as it is approved by the USPS and [meets all their regulations](http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/508.htm#wp1051804), you’ll get no grief. Just don’t be a smart-aleck:

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> \*\*3.2.4 Mailbox Post \*\*
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> The post or other support for a curbside mailbox must be neat and of adequate strength and size. **The post may not represent effigies or caricatures that tend to disparage or ridicule any person.** The box may be attached to a fixed or movable arm.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/223 "2009-12-02T02:32:28Z")

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> [@ltfire](#):
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> That’s a good question.  
> My take is as follows.  
> I buy and install a mailbox at the end of my driveway. It is MY mailbox.  
> The Mailman delivers my mail by putting it in MY mailbox. The mail is now MINE.  
> Anyone care to differ?🙂

I believe it is actually the property of the US Government.  
Here is a crummy [link.](http://books.google.com/books?id=BIqJk1-GGP4C&pg=PT33&lpg=PT33&dq=mail+box+us+government+property&source=bl&ots=oYJ2AFdHL9&sig=nLW4Aer6t4amfeUGBTR-T-WUxfU&hl=en&ei=gtAVS4_PGNDclAe1jsTUBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false) Google is not my friend tonight.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/224 "2009-12-02T02:43:48Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> A few more dalliances are coming to the fore. He is taking advantage of the golf groupies and fringe benefits. Tiger is human after all.

Link?

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/225 "2009-12-02T14:34:13Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Isn’t your mailbox technically the property of the US Postal Service?

Yes, in the sense that they can regulate it. For example it’s illegal to pass advertising around your neighborhood by putting leaflets inside of the mailbox. Did you ever notice that they’re usually taped or attached with an elastic band?

I know this from experience. I passed out leaflets once in my neighborhood by placing them in the box. I received a nastygram from the post office saying they had all been collected and that they were being courteous by choosing not to fine me.

Since this is the Straight Dope: Taken from: [http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/gg97085.pdf](http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/gg97085.pdf)

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> In 1934, Congress enacted a law known as the “mailbox restriction” that  
> prohibits anyone from placing mailable matter without postage into any  
> mailbox. This law, 18 U.S.C. 1725, gives the Postal Service a virtual  
> monopoly over mailboxes…

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/226 "2009-12-02T14:40:52Z")

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Also, more germane to this thread (from [https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/tipvandl.htm](https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/tipvandl.htm))

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> Mailboxes are considered federal property, and federal law (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1705), makes it a crime to vandalize them (or to injure, deface or destroy any mail deposited in them). Violators can be fined up to $250,000, or imprisoned for up to three years, for each act of vandalism.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/227 "2009-12-02T15:04:49Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Also, more germane to this thread (from [https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/tipvandl.htm](https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/tipvandl.htm))

So the kids who drive around and smack them with a 2 x 4 could be sent to Guantanamo. :eek:

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/228 "2009-12-02T15:37:44Z")

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[2nd Statement by Tiger Woods](http://web.tigerwoods.com/news/article/200912027740572/news/).

Admits to transgressions. Fairy tale life is tumbling down.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/229 "2009-12-02T15:46:05Z")

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Is Tiger any different than athletes in other sports? Even an ugly dude can get laid if he plays professional sports. A superstar that’s nice looking can get laid every night. Wilt Chamberlain’s book (claiming 20,000 women) is one exaggerated account of the sports groupies that hang out at team hotels.

I’m not sure why fans think Tiger is any different than other athletes or rock stars. Yeah, he’s married and should stop. That’s something he has to discuss privately with his wife.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/230 "2009-12-02T15:49:35Z")

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A Billie Holiday song comes to mind, _Ain’t Nobody’s Business But My Own._

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/231 "2009-12-02T16:00:39Z")

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So from crash to confession, that took about 5 1/3 days before he had to drop the privacy thing and admit he’d been unfaithful to his wife. I think it goes to show not that privacy is impossible today, but that if the tabloid press and tabloid public get even a hint that somebody famous is covering something up, the purported wrongdoer is going to be hounded until something comes out. That’s not to excuse anything he did, but I’m always a little amazed by the frenzy that surrounds stories like this. It’s like people are out for blood as soon as they think someone famous is hiding information they are entitled to have. I was curious about this too, it goes without saying. But what did Tiger do that offended everybody so much? He won some golf tournaments and maybe a minority of people thought he was a bit arrogant?

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/232 "2009-12-02T16:08:50Z")

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Well, he finally admitted it.

> **[Woods posts apology, regrets 'transgressions'](https://www.espn.com/golf/news/story?id=4705945&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)**
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> Tiger Woods, charged with careless driving and fined $164 by Florida authorities on Tuesday, is now squarely in the crosshairs of the celebrity and tabloid media.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/233 "2009-12-02T16:10:21Z")

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I hadn’t refreshed this page. Sorry for the “old” news.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/234 "2009-12-02T16:11:20Z")

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I don’t think hes dropped the privacy thing at all, nor does he plan too.

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**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/235 "2009-12-02T16:17:32Z")

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There’s now a [voice mail](http://www.sbnation.com/2009/12/2/1182228/tiger-woods-voicemail-nightmare) that sure sounds like him asking the latest “girlfriend” to please “quickly” remove her name from from her incoming call settings as “my wife went through my phone”.

Hope he plans on buying something _really_ nice for Elin for Christmas.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/236 "2009-12-02T16:20:33Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Well, he finally admitted it.
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> [http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4705945&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines](http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4705945&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)

He was screwing the girl from “Tool Academy”? Hilarious!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/237 "2009-12-02T16:21:13Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I don’t think hes dropped the privacy thing at all, nor does he plan too.

No, but he admitted something he did not want to admit and had tried to keep private for the last few days.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/238 "2009-12-02T16:25:10Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> No, but he admitted something he did not want to admit and had tried to keep private for the last few days.

After it was already public.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/239 "2009-12-02T16:34:55Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I don’t think hes dropped the privacy thing at all, nor does he plan too.

Yep, just nudged his stonewall back a tad.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/240 "2009-12-02T16:54:20Z")

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Guess his wife decided she would rather have 100% of a lot of money instead of 50%. 🙂

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