# Tiger Woods injured **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 27, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163 "2009-11-27T19:39:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/441 "2009-12-10T21:17:28Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > Is anything “officially” a sport? Since some arguments about sports seem to be as passionate as those about religion, then it’s an important distinction to make. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/442 "2009-12-10T21:23:59Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > Nope. It’s a game. Just like darts, poker, chess, etc. > > Doesn’t mean it can’t be competitive. Just means it ain’t a sport. Do you get on the case of hunters and shooters for calling themselves “sportsmen?” Do you inform them that they aren’t sportsmen, they are actually “gamesmen?” ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/443 "2009-12-10T21:41:39Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Do you get on the case of hunters and shooters for calling themselves “sportsmen?” Do you inform them that they aren’t sportsmen, they are actually “gamesmen?” I know I am not the “you” to whom you refer, but if by “shooters” you mean people who shoot at targets, then I would call that a sport - it has the necessary combination of physical skill and competition to make it a sport in my book. Hunting doesn’t, and I do not regard it as being a sport. Or a game. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/444 "2009-12-10T21:44:02Z")
[“It is a sport, therefore we are athletes.”](http://www.southerncaliforniagolf.com/photo.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/445 "2009-12-10T22:15:43Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > I know I am not the “you” to whom you refer, but if by “shooters” you mean people who shoot at targets, then I would call that a sport - it has the necessary combination of physical skill and competition to make it a sport in my book. Hunting doesn’t, and I do not regard it as being a sport. Or a game. FTR, I think shooting, hunting, golf, and drag racing are all perfectly fine sports. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/446 "2009-12-11T00:29:10Z")
Golf is generally acknowledged to require quite a bit of experience to really excel at the top levels of the sport-the subtleties can escape the more inexperienced. While yes there have been major winners in their teens, they are very few and far between (and, as far as the men’s tour is concerned, that hasn’t happened in 150 years, since Young Tom Morris came on the stage, at least as far as professional-eligible majors are concerned). In tennis for example there’s been many teen major winners. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/447 "2009-12-11T07:18:47Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Interesting that you put it this way, since golf is an olympic sport now :). > > People argue about what constitutes a sport all the time, and people have different criteria. At least the consensus seems to be that golf is a sport, since it’s covered by all the major sports media and so on I wouldn’t base whether something was a ‘sport’ or not if it was in the Olympics or not - based on that criteria, baseball, softball, and squash are not ‘sports’. And network coverage? Please - poker is covered extensively by ESPN. Is it a sport? ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/448 "2009-12-11T12:21:09Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > I wouldn’t base whether something was a ‘sport’ or not if it was in the Olympics or not - based on that criteria, baseball, softball, and squash are not ‘sports’. You have a logical fallacy there - if domething is deemed to be a sport because it is in the Olympics, that does not mean that things not in the Olympics are not sports. > [@](#): > > And network coverage? Please - poker is covered extensively by ESPN. Is it a sport? I’m with you there - ESPN has also covered Scrabble and spelling bees. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/449 "2009-12-11T14:56:18Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > Huh? Teenagers have way more energy (and, in the case of gymnastics, flexibility and (probably) lack of a fear of falling!) then someone in their 30s. > … > > Teenagers don’t win big tournaments/matches most of the time mainly due to nerves and lack of experience - it’s rarely because they were ‘too young’ to keep up physically with their older opponents. I realize you are trying to get a reaction, and we have certainly done the sport v game thing many a time. But I find it curious that your definition seems to weigh so heavily towards the “physical” side of athletic competition, while minimizing the mental. Also, physican ability is manifested in countless ways, from strength, speed, agility, coordination, endurance … I think that most sport includes at least some element of both physical and mental, with varying ratios lying along a continuum. It seems that when the physical component is decreased to a certain point, folk tend to consider an activity more a game than a sport. But not everyone agrees at where that point is. Similar for the “static” and “active” types of physical effort. The hand-eye coordination involved in high-level darts is amazing, but most folk would consider that a game compared to the gross muscular efforts involved in football. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/450 "2009-12-11T15:18:52Z")
In racquetball tournaments you would think a kid would have an advantage. But they are won by people ion late 20s and 30s. Rubin Gonzales won one in his 50s. We are talking pro tour here. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/451 "2009-12-11T15:40:27Z")
Must not be a sport, then! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/452 "2009-12-11T17:00:26Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > I’m with you there - ESPN has also covered Scrabble and spelling bees. But you don’t find many sports pages (or websites) that cover Scrabble tournaments. Every sports page covers golf. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/453 "2009-12-11T17:13:56Z")
Tiger really takes good care of his body. He works out a lot . He makes sure he doesn’t have pressure from unresolved sex. When he came in most golfers did little working out. Now golfers are in excellent shape. Cross training is the norm now. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/454 "2009-12-11T20:18:48Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > Oxford Dictionary definition: > sport / spôrt/ > • n. 1. an activity involving \*\*physical exertion \*\*and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment: team sports such as baseball and soccer You are either delusional, or being deliberately obtuse. Golf most definitely involves physical exertion. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/455 "2009-12-11T20:29:49Z")
Is it just me, or does anyone else recall Elin being described as a Swedish “supermodel” around the time of Tiger’s wedding? All this time, that’s what I thought she was in her former life. I had no idea until the recent incident that she and her sister were basically nannies. Also, does anyone else find it weird that the Parneviks would hire gorgeous blonde twin sisters as nannies? I don’t think that there’s anything intrinsically wrong with that, but I know plenty of people that have nannies or au-pairs and they don’t ever look like them. ---
**Author:** ![Ponster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponster/32/17081_2.png) [@Ponster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponster)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/456 "2009-12-11T21:36:35Z")
I thought I’d post this here rather than in GQ : [UK injunction granted over golfer Tiger Woods](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8408760.stm) > [@](#): > > Lawyers for US golfer Tiger Woods have obtained a UK injunction preventing certain information purportedly about him being published. > > The order was granted by a judge at the High Court in London, and concerns alleged information which cannot be disclosed for legal reasons. So what am I missing out on ??? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/457 "2009-12-11T21:38:35Z")
From what I’ve heard, photos of him in flagrante. We would find out if he packs a 9-iron or a 7-iron. But that’s just what I’ve heard. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/458 "2009-12-11T22:09:51Z")
What’s the difference between Tiger Woods and Santa. Santa stops after 3 ho’s. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/459 "2009-12-12T00:27:59Z")
Breaking news from Tiger’s website: > [@](#): > > I am deeply aware of the disappointment and hurt that my infidelity has caused to so many people, most of all my wife and children. I want to say again to everyone that I am profoundly sorry and that I ask forgiveness. It may not be possible to repair the damage I’ve done, but I want to do my best to try. > > I would like to ask everyone, including my fans, the good people at my foundation, business partners, the PGA Tour, and my fellow competitors, for their understanding. What’s most important now is that my family has the time, privacy, and safe haven we will need for personal healing. > > After much soul searching, **I have decided to take an indefinite break from professional golf**. I need to focus my attention on being a better husband, father, and person. > > Again, I ask for privacy for my family and I am especially grateful for all those who have offered compassion and concern during this difficult period. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/460 "2009-12-12T01:35:20Z")
This is very bad news for the PGA. They were begging and pleading for sponsors to keep sponsoring their tournaments next year in these economic times. They lost a number of them anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few tournaments dropped during the season. A heck of a lot of people only watch golf when Tiger is in the field. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163.md?page=24)