# Tiger Woods injured **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 27, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163 "2009-11-27T19:39:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/541 "2009-12-17T20:33:39Z")
I’m hearing she is leaving/divorcing him now? Have you guys heard this? [http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/16/elin-nordegren-moving-out-tiger-woods/?test=faces](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/16/elin-nordegren-moving-out-tiger-woods/?test=faces) > **[Tiger Woods: Divorce Looms for 'Athlete of the Decade'](https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/tiger-woods-athlete-decade-divorcee/story?id=9357960)** > > Just as rumors of a possible divorce between Tiger Woods and Elin Nordigrin start to surface, Woods is named Athlete of the Decade by The Associated Press ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/542 "2009-12-17T20:40:55Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m hearing she is leaving/divorcing him now? Have you guys heard this? > > [http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/16/elin-nordegren-moving-out-tiger-woods/?test=faces](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/16/elin-nordegren-moving-out-tiger-woods/?test=faces) > > [Tiger Woods: Divorce Looms for 'Athlete of the Decade' - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/tiger-woods-athlete-decade-divorcee/story?id=9357960) That’s the story. Really, that’s about the only thing she can do now. You could maybe sorta get over one affair, but he seems to have banged anything that got within the same ZIP code. Seems a pretty clear indication that he has no desire to be married in the normal sense. I guess we’ll all know soon. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/543 "2009-12-17T21:14:35Z")
if these reports are true, there is no legitimate no reason why Tiger needs to take an indefinite hiatus from tournament golf. He is not taking time to repairing his marriage. Maybe one legitimate reason, he is a coward and does not want to face the public. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/544 "2009-12-17T21:39:59Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > if these reports are true, there is no legitimate no reason why Tiger needs to take an indefinite hiatus from tournament golf. He is not taking time to repairing his marriage. > > Maybe one legitimate reason, he is a coward and does not want to face the public. Seriously? That makes him a coward? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/545 "2009-12-17T22:34:09Z")
I realized the funny thing about all this is that golf is now no different than other pro sports. They can longer claim to be high brow when their #1 star was screwing anyone with a vagina. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/546 "2009-12-17T22:47:21Z")
> [@](#): > > They can longer claim to be high brow when their #1 star was screwing **anyone with a vagina**. Give it a week. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/547 "2009-12-17T22:49:51Z")
The best thing about Woods is when I imagine all those racists from Augusta national spinning in their graves every time he steps on the course and spinning even faster when he wins. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/548 "2009-12-18T00:55:49Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > The best thing about Woods is when I imagine all those racists from Augusta national spinning in their graves every time he steps on the course and spinning even faster when he wins. Hell - wasn’t just Augusta. Back into the 60s, being white was an express requirement of the PGA! ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/549 "2009-12-18T01:09:50Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Back into the 60s, being white was an express requirement of the PGA! Do you have a cite? (Not being snarky - I’d really like to have this confirmed). ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/550 "2009-12-18T01:17:22Z")
In the early 50s the PGA tour had a whites only rule. It’s strange but the first black guy to play a PGA tour event was boxer Joe Louis. He was really into golf after he retired as a golfer. Charlie Sifford was the first black member of the PGA tour, he joined in 1961. > **[Charlie Sifford](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Sifford)** > > Charles Luther Sifford (June 2, 1922 – February 3, 2015) was an American professional golfer who was the first African American to play on the PGA Tour. He won the Greater Hartford Open in 1967 and the Los Angeles Open in 1969. He also won the United Golf Association's National Negro Open six times, and the PGA Seniors' Championship in 1975. > For his contributions to golf, Sifford was inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame in 2004. He was awarded the Old Tom Morris Award in 2007, the Preside... > **[Joe Louis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Louis)** > > Joseph Louis Barrow (May 13, 1914 – April 12, 1981) was an American professional boxer who competed from 1934 to 1951. Nicknamed "the Brown Bomber", Louis is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential boxers of all time. He reigned as the world heavyweight champion from 1937 until his temporary retirement in 1949. He was victorious in 25 consecutive title defenses, a record for all weight classes.\[nb 1\] Louis had the longest single reign as champion of any boxer in history. > Lo... ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/551 "2009-12-18T01:34:07Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > The best thing about Woods is when I imagine all those racists from Augusta national spinning in their graves every time he steps on the course and spinning even faster when he wins. If you think that a black man playing on their golf course would freak them out, what would they do if they knew he had been “getting at” all them white wimmen?!? ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/552 "2009-12-18T03:03:58Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > the first black guy to play a PGA tour event was boxer Joe Louis. Thanks - I never knew that. Your Wiki link says he played in the 1952 San Diego Open. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/553 "2009-12-18T14:39:50Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > Do you have a cite? (Not being snarky - I’d really like to have this confirmed). [Here’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Spiller) a wiki reference from a quick google. I’m sure you could readily find more - and more definitive - cites. I had read it a few times before in different books about golf. _(I am fortunate that my local library has a HUGE collection of golf books and videos, donated by some resident.)_ And it was probably referenced in a show the Golf Channel had about a year ago about blacks in pro golf. While just about every sport practiced segregation/discrimination at one time, pro golf may have been unique in having it written down in its rules. Hard to believe how things have changed in such a relatively short time. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/554 "2009-12-18T16:16:57Z")
[James “Pat” Ball](http://www.afrogolf.com/patball.html) is listed by [afrogolf.com](http://afrogolf.com) as the first black to play in a PGATour sanctioned event. The 1934 St Paul Open. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/555 "2009-12-18T16:30:01Z")
Ted Rhodes came in 51st [at the 1948 US Open](http://www.golfobserver.com/new/golfstats.php?style=&tour=Majors&name=&year=1948&tournament=U.S.+Open&in=Search). FTR, that is a USGA event but not controlled by the PGA/PGATTour ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/556 "2009-12-18T22:56:36Z")
Another sponsor “scales back” ads with Woods [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap\_on\_sp\_go\_ne/glf\_tiger\_woods\_tag\_heuer](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_sp_go_ne/glf_tiger_woods_tag_heuer) It was not until the late 80s that the PGA tour banned tourneys from clubs that were 100% white and excluded Jews. They put in the ban because of an issue brought up by Tom Watson who has a Jewish wife. Right after that Augusta National got their first black member - which they claim had nothing to do with the PGA policy change. (and yes I know the Masters is not a PGA event) ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/557 "2009-12-19T00:17:59Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > [Here’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Spiller) a wiki reference from a quick google. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/558 "2009-12-19T01:53:02Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Another sponsor “scales back” ads with Woods > > [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap\_on\_sp\_go\_ne/glf\_tiger\_woods\_tag\_heuer](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_sp_go_ne/glf_tiger_woods_tag_heuer) > > It was not until the late 80s that the PGA tour banned tourneys from clubs that were 100% white and excluded Jews. They put in the ban because of an issue brought up by Tom Watson who has a Jewish wife. Right after that Augusta National got their first black member - which they claim had nothing to do with the PGA policy change. (and yes I know the Masters is not a PGA event) I would like to see your documentation of the issue regarding Jewish membership of clubs hosting tournaments. My recollection is that the PGA instituted a restriction on tournaments at clubs that did not accept minority members, which led to the dropping of Cypress Point from the rotation at the AT&T (in favor of Poppy Hills, owned by the NCGA). I have never heard that this had anything to do with membership of Jews in such clubs. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/559 "2009-12-19T03:29:50Z")
Here is the story about Tom Watson and the club that did not admit a Jew - it was the club where he was a member so he quit the club but they didn’t have a PGA tourney at the time. It was right around the same time the PGA tourney was held at a club in Alabama that did not allow black members. That’s why I combined these 2 events but they were not related. [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1136095/index.htm](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1136095/index.htm) [http://www.nytimes.com/1990/12/04/sports/golf-watson-s-private-club-protest-may-be-a-lonely-one.html](http://www.nytimes.com/1990/12/04/sports/golf-watson-s-private-club-protest-may-be-a-lonely-one.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163/560 "2009-12-19T16:33:28Z")
I remember when they moved the Western from Butler because it wouldn’t (and still doesn’t) admit women. Probably around late-80s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiger-woods-injured/519163.md?page=29)