# Tiger's apology on TV **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 19, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637 "2010-02-19T16:21:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/21 "2010-02-19T17:08:45Z")
From what I could see, there was only one pro golfer in attendance. Notah Begay, a former college teammate of Tiger, who is now journeyman golfer and IIRC, is way down on the pecking order of PGATour players. Yes, most of his golfing buddies are playing this week in AZ, one of his best buddies in golf (Steve Stricker) was eliminated from the tournament on Wed and could have attended. John Cook and Mark O’Meara were apparently invited, but they are playing a Champions tour event in South Florida. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/22 "2010-02-19T17:10:57Z")
What a bunch of crap. They are analyzing this harder than the State of the Union. Let it go, already! The ESPN talking heads (and ESPN in general) are going to beat this thing into the ground until it can be beaten no more. I thought his speech sucked. It wasn’t written by him, and it looked like a high school book report. It was a joke. This is none of our business. I don’t care where his dick has been. That’s between him and his wife. He’s not a criminal. He’s not a drug addict. Sex addict? Please. He’s going to get his noodle wet again as soon as he is able. And it’s still none of our business. If Elin stays with him, that’s on her. 13+ minutes, with Hannah Storm’s analysis… priceless. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/23 "2010-02-19T17:12:43Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > What about Brit Hume? Hume said on Fox News that Tiger needed to leave Buddhism and convert to Christianity. He basically pissed all over Buddhism and said that only Jesus Christ could help Tiger. [Details here](http://www.newshounds.us/2010/01/04/brit_hume_clarifies_jesus_christ_offers_tiger_woods_something_that_tiger_woods_badly_needs.php) ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/24 "2010-02-19T17:13:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > According to Tiger, his mom told him to wear red on sundays because it symbolizes power and aggression in Thai Buddhism. That’s also why his bevy of babes wore red lipstick and red thongs. That symbolism transcends his entire life. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/25 "2010-02-19T17:18:00Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Hume said on Fox News that Tiger needed to leave Buddhism and convert to Christianity. He basically pissed all over Buddhism and said that only Jesus Christ could help Tiger. > > [Details here](http://www.newshounds.us/2010/01/04/brit_hume_clarifies_jesus_christ_offers_tiger_woods_something_that_tiger_woods_badly_needs.php) I can’t believe I’m going to suggest this (because if Hume is actually saying this, he’s an idiot), but isn’t part of the 12-step program of addiction recovery a religious component to accept Jesus Christ? I’m not familiar with the 12 steps, but I think I heard someone mention this. Brit Hume needs to keep his religious thoughts to himself. If it works for him, fine. But don’t stick it to Buddhism. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/26 "2010-02-19T17:19:03Z")
We don’t know if he’s in a 12 step program, there are other types of rehab programs. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/27 "2010-02-19T17:21:55Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I can’t believe I’m going to suggest this (because if Hume is actually saying this, he’s an idiot), but isn’t part of the 12-step program of addiction recovery a religious component to accept Jesus Christ? No, “God as we understood Him”. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/28 "2010-02-19T17:23:00Z")
> [@AndyPolley](#): > > If he didn’t insist on acting like Brittney or Lindsey, Tiger goes commando while wearing short dresses? All I wanted to know is how hard she hit him with the golf club. Otherwise, some famous guy getting strange trim and cheating on his wife is just a big snoozer. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/29 "2010-02-19T17:24:15Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I can’t believe I’m going to suggest this (because if Hume is actually saying this, he’s an idiot), but isn’t part of the 12-step program of addiction recovery a religious component to accept Jesus Christ? No, just a “higher power.” I don’t know if Tiger’s in a 12 step system, but if he is, Buddhism can still plug right into it. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/30 "2010-02-19T17:24:58Z")
Wait, do we all have to apologize on national TV now if we screw up in our personal lives? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/31 "2010-02-19T17:25:51Z")
I’m sure it wasn’t easy for him. He’s doubling down on the assertion that there was no domestic violence, if proven wrong his credibility is zero. The only part I have a problem with is his lashing out at the media. True, they should not stalk his family. But this is not the time and place for it. You don’t say, “I’m sorry, but these guys are jerks too”. You say “I’m sorry” and then if they keep stalking your family you can counterattack from the high ground. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/32 "2010-02-19T17:28:44Z")
I heard a little of it. The speechwriter in me noticed that he said his wife had not hit him “that night or any other night.” No denial of daytime abuse, but of course we all know what he meant. Asking the media to back off is _pro forma_ and almost sure to be ignored by the worst of the paparazzi. There’s gold in them thar photos. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/33 "2010-02-19T17:28:46Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Wait, do we all have to apologize on national TV now if we screw up in our personal lives? Only if you live in the public eye and have a multitude of companies giving you a shit ton of money to portray a specific image. An image that does not coincide with certain methods of screwing up your persona life. If that’s you, then it might be in your best interest to apologize on national TV yes. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/34 "2010-02-19T17:29:08Z")
If they play it on the national news I’ll probably listen but aside from that I could care less about his private life and won’t make any effort to follow the story. [Dan Jenkins](http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-tours-news/2010-02/golf-tiger-jenkins-0218) had a pretty good take on Tiger’s relative importance, or lack thereof, nowadays. Can’t say I disagree in the slightest. ---
**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/35 "2010-02-19T17:29:16Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I don’t care where his dick has been. That’s between him and his wife. See, the entire problem is that it hasn’t always been there. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/36 "2010-02-19T17:31:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Hume said on Fox News that Tiger needed to leave Buddhism and convert to Christianity. He basically pissed all over Buddhism and said that only Jesus Christ could help Tiger. > > [Details here](http://www.newshounds.us/2010/01/04/brit_hume_clarifies_jesus_christ_offers_tiger_woods_something_that_tiger_woods_badly_needs.php) What an ass. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/37 "2010-02-19T17:32:59Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Hume said something like he didn’t think Buddhism had the concept of forgiveness but Christianity did. In Therevada Buddhism, it doesn’t. Wrongful action, according to at least this flavor of Buddhism, harm your karma. There is no sentient power to “forgive” you; the karmic harm you have done can only be repaired, if at all, by acts which strengthen your karmic standing. Of course, the punishment for poor karma is found in the fact that you must continue to endure the cycle of rebirth, and possibly endure trying circumstances in your next rebirth. The Buddha speaks of someone being reborn with withered hand or arm, or limping, lame, or stunned, as possible consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/38 "2010-02-19T17:33:22Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I heard a little of it. The speechwriter in me noticed that he said his wife had not hit him “that night or any other night.” No denial of daytime abuse, but of course we all know what he meant. He soon after that unequivocally said there has been no domestic abuse or violence in their relationship, no qualifiers. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/39 "2010-02-19T17:34:36Z")
> [@cmosdes](#): > > See, the entire problem is that it hasn’t always been there. It’s not \*my \*problem… I am more impressed by Tiger’s ability to juggle 13+ women, his wife, and play golf on a different plane than the rest of the world. As soon as he’s back on tour, he’s going to be getting whoever he wants again. He’ll just be smarter about it. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637/40 "2010-02-19T17:35:56Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Wait, do we all have to apologize on national TV now if we screw up in our personal lives? Why, do you need to get something off you chest? 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tigers-apology-on-tv/529637.md?page=3)