# Tillerson fired

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 13, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484 "2018-03-13T13:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/21 "2018-03-13T14:17:05Z")

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What a moron.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/22 "2018-03-13T14:17:38Z")

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Not surprising. This is after all reality TV and Trump has to fire people regularly in a bid to boost the all-important ratings. The show may well be canceled in a couple of years if the figures don’t rise.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/23 "2018-03-13T14:21:05Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> What a moron.

_Fucking_ moron. 😛

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/24 "2018-03-13T14:23:02Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Business Insider.](http://www.businessinsider.com/who-has-trump-fired-so-far-james-comey-sean-spicer-michael-flynn-2017-7)
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> 20 Best People so far.

[Hey, it’s already out of date](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/donald-trumps-personal-assistant-escorted-white-house-cold-without-jacket/)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/25 "2018-03-13T14:25:09Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Just a couple hours ago, I figured the PA-18 special election would be the big political news of the day.

It really wouldn’t surprise me if this had some part in the timing. Trump - and the GOP establishment - are worried enough about the optics of PA-18. I could see where a distraction to push a potential embarrassment off the front page could be useful. Say what you want about Trump but no one can deny he’s media savvy.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/26 "2018-03-13T14:31:07Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> So, Pompeo’s deputy is nominated to run the CIA, which probably leaves the Tea Partier in effective control of both our foreign intel and our foreign policy. What could go wrong? I guess it’ll be easier with one guy in charge of our “diplomats” and our diplomats.

Gina Haspel is a tea-partier?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/27 "2018-03-13T14:32:57Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> It really wouldn’t surprise me if this had some part in the timing. Trump - and the GOP establishment - are worried enough about the optics of PA-18. I could see where a distraction to push a potential embarrassment off the front page could be useful. Say what you want about Trump but no one can deny he’s media savvy.

Sure, it pushes PA-18 off the front page, but this almost in Saturday Night Massacre territory: firing your Secretary of State right after he’s said something critical about Russia that would be boilerplate in any other Administration.

Seriously, there are only two interpretations of this, and both are awful:

1. Trump really is Putin’s puppet, and isn’t even bothering to hide it anymore; or

2. he’s lost his goddamned mind.

ETA: Or both. No reason they have to be mutually exclusive.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/28 "2018-03-13T14:33:05Z")

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First female CIA director, am I right?

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**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/29 "2018-03-13T14:35:00Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> It really wouldn’t surprise me if this had some part in the timing. Trump - and the GOP establishment - are worried enough about the optics of PA-18. I could see where a distraction to push a potential embarrassment off the front page could be useful. Say what you want about Trump but no one can deny he’s media savvy.

I don’t think it’s particularly savvy to make your administration look confused on the day of an election you’ve invested some of your reputation in. Undecided or swing voters probably look down on that kind of thing.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/30 "2018-03-13T14:36:11Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> [Hey, it’s already out of date](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/donald-trumps-personal-assistant-escorted-white-house-cold-without-jacket/)

Truly a needed person.

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> He wasn’t well known in public but was constantly beside Trump for the last three years. His responsibilities consisted of having markers for Trump to sign autographs, delivering messages to the residence and ensuring the clocks in the White House residence were adjusted for daylight-savings.
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> “It’s not going to be great for morale,” an official said.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/31 "2018-03-13T14:39:41Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Comedians got it that the so called “grownups” are not controlling a thing in the Trump misadministration.
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> [http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/354202-colbert-slams-cabinet-secretary-suicide-pact](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/354202-colbert-slams-cabinet-secretary-suicide-pact)  
> And that was from last year…

Anyone want to wager on whether Mattis and Mnuchin follow through?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/32 "2018-03-13T14:44:32Z")

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Unfortunately, I shot my load before this thread was started:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20841894&postcount=17759](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20841894&postcount=17759)

Following up on [**voltaire** ’s response](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20842026&postcount=17772) to me…

Yeah, I could see the new CIA going after Assange. It seems like having Assange no longer exist in the world could be handy for many. Obviously, he’s useful to Russia, but Trump is worth even more to them.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/33 "2018-03-13T14:52:01Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> [Hey, it’s already out of date](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/donald-trumps-personal-assistant-escorted-white-house-cold-without-jacket/)

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> He wasn’t well known in public but was constantly beside Trump for the last three years. His responsibilities consisted of having markers for Trump to sign autographs, delivering messages to the residence and ensuring the clocks in the White House residence were adjusted for daylight-savings.

[Top. Men.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoy4_h7Pb3M)

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/34 "2018-03-13T14:56:08Z")

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Not surprising for this meglomaniac. If you don’t fall in step he just eliminates you. He’s been pushing and encouraging that agenda all along. Democratic politicians? Vote them all out and replace with Republicans. Republican politicians who don’t follow his lead? Get rid of them and replace with those that kiss his ass. Media that doesn’t run like a state ran propoganda machine? Call them “fake” and encourage ways to have them banned and eliminated.  
Now, if he could just find a way to get rid of half the citizens of this country who don’t pledge their dying allegiance to him.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/35 "2018-03-13T15:04:48Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Not surprising for this meglomaniac. If you don’t fall in step he just eliminates you. He’s been pushing and encouraging that agenda all along. Democratic politicians? Vote them all out and replace with Republicans. Republican politicians who don’t follow his lead? Get rid of them and replace with those that kiss his ass. Media that doesn’t run like a state ran propoganda machine? Call them “fake” and encourage ways to have them banned and eliminated.  
> **Now, if he could just find a way to get rid of half the citizens of this country who don’t pledge their dying allegiance to him.**

What about all those FEMA camps that are sitting idle?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/36 "2018-03-13T15:09:34Z")

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> [@Mithras](#):
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> I don’t think it’s particularly savvy to make your administration look confused on the day of an election you’ve invested some of your reputation in.

Especially because it steps on the “news” of Nunes “officially” exonerating him of collusion with Russia.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/37 "2018-03-13T15:11:12Z")

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Hires the best…keeps the rest.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/38 "2018-03-13T15:11:50Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> So what’s the order of getting the replacement confirmed- is it Putin first then Senate or the other way around?

Based on how Tillerson was picked in the first place, it looks like Putin doesn’t ratify the nominee but \*chooses \*him.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/39 "2018-03-13T15:14:14Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Based on how Tillerson was picked in the first place, it looks like Putin doesn’t ratify the nominee but \*chooses \*him.

He’s putin it to his staff one member at a time.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/40 "2018-03-13T15:30:04Z")

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It’s like a clown car with a revolving door on it.

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