# Tillerson fired **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 13, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484 "2018-03-13T13:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/61 "2018-03-13T17:20:00Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Adding to the already skyscraper-tall stack of evidence that Trump has no sense. IMO it’s worse than having no sense. Because if you have no sense but are at least trying, then you can get guidance from people who do have sense. In Trump’s case, his managing style is based on emotion and hangups, and is additionally combined with enormous arrogance. I’d take a normal person with no sense over that. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/62 "2018-03-13T17:20:42Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > So, Pompeo’s deputy is nominated to run the CIA, which probably leaves the Tea Partier in effective control of both our foreign intel and our foreign policy. What could go wrong? I guess it’ll be easier with one guy in charge of our “diplomats” and our diplomats. > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Gina Haspel is a tea-partier? No, Pompeo, who I was saying would now effectively control both posts since he’s leaving behind his deputy, was elected to Congress during the Tea Party craze. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/63 "2018-03-13T17:20:47Z")
I would like to note for the record that Donald Trump, a man who rode the phrase “you’re fired!” into a position where he could jockey for… and win… the Presidency did NOT fire Tillerson via Twitter: “Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA, will become our new Secretary of State. He will do a fantastic job! Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service! Gina Haspel will become the new Director of the CIA, and the first woman so chosen. Congratulations to all!” No, all the coward did was announce his replacement. Didn’t even have the guts to _tweet_ “Rex, you’re fired!” or even a respectful(?) “I’m sorry, but it’s not working out.” What a loser. A complete and utter loser. In some ways, this cowardice is the most alarming revelation into Trump’s personality since his election. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/64 "2018-03-13T17:22:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > First female CIA director, am I right? Apparently so. Also quite possibly the first CIA director who’s personally run a system of torture chambers. So, we’re making history left and right today. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/65 "2018-03-13T17:24:54Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > No, all the coward did was announce his replacement. Didn’t even have the guts to _tweet_ “Rex, you’re fired!” or even a respectful(?) “I’m sorry, but it’s not working out.” But “It’s not you, it’s me” would have been _sweet_! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/66 "2018-03-13T17:30:49Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > But…But you guys all told me that Tillerson was in Russia’s pocket, that he was a Putin puppet. > > You couldn’t have been, I dunno, on crack or something, could you? You get that people are questioning the process, not the value of Tillerson, right? I mean, you having been smoking crack, have you? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/67 "2018-03-13T17:49:16Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > You get that people are questioning the process, not the value of Tillerson, right? I mean, you having been smoking crack, have you? I know that that is not the case here, but looking at the Trump supporters in congress I do believe now that smoking crack would be better for them than trying to continue to carry water for this administration. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/68 "2018-03-13T17:52:14Z")
It’s incredible what the GOP is defending isn’t it? The Secretary of State is a) not informed of the North Korea initiative and then b) fired 24 hours after criticizing Russian and c) learns about it on twitter. Remember that time Obama wore a tan suit and they said he looked unpresidential? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/69 "2018-03-13T17:54:04Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > You get that people are questioning the process, not the value of Tillerson, right? In part. But people have also been claiming that Trump fired Tillerson because he wasn’t sufficiently pro-Russia, which seems to contrast with earlier claims that he was hired precisely because he was a pro-Russia stooge. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/70 "2018-03-13T17:56:03Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > In part. But people have also been claiming that Trump fired Tillerson because he wasn’t sufficiently pro-Russia, which seems to contrast with earlier claims that he was hired precisely because he was a pro-Russia stooge. IMHO that is what Trump expected, he turned into a disappointment (for him) like Sessions did. ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/71 "2018-03-13T17:59:56Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > _What would Mitch McConnell do, if he were here right now? > He’d deregulate a bank or two, that’s what Mitch McConnell’d do._ I’m glad you’re singing thar song, not Blame Canada! Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/72 "2018-03-13T18:03:04Z")
You can probably be soft on Russia AND yet still think that openly murdering people in another country is going a little too far. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/73 "2018-03-13T18:04:54Z")
It says something about the Trump administration that while Tillerson was terrible at his job, it’s deeply worrying that he is gone. In particular, Pompeo appears to be much more hawkish than Tillerson. His appointment may be a signal that Trump will pull out of the Iran deal which could lead to all sorts of complications including ultimately war. The Trump administration appears to be getting more chaotic by the month and the recent tariffs are an example of the chaos affecting policy. It’s not just about crazy tweets any more… ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/74 "2018-03-13T18:05:53Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I know that that is not the case here, but looking at the Trump supporters in congress I do believe now that smoking crack would be better for them than trying to continue to carry water for this administration. Now, now…they make too much money to smoke crack. They don’t do crack; crack is wack! > [@madmonk28](#): > > It’s incredible what the GOP is defending isn’t it? The Secretary of State is a) not informed of the North Korea initiative and then b) fired 24 hours after criticizing Russian and c) learns about it on twitter. Remember that time Obama wore a tan suit and they said he looked unpresidential? Remember whe [he ordered a burger with dijon mustard](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE)? President Poupon! Seriously, all of the conspiracy nutterism back in the early ‘Nineties about how the fall of the Soviet Union was a sham to make NATO drop its defenses and allow Russian influence to seep into Western democracies looks…well, still incredibly paranoid, but in some bizarre way not completely wrong. Even wierder is that many of the folks who so venerated Reagan and is condemnation of the “Evil Empire” are now the ones offering excuses and evasions for not addressing clear Russian interference and influence now. It’s like _The Americans_ and the Coen Brothers had a love child, and that child produced a ficitional narrative in which bumbling neoconservatives set up a conspiracy that was subverted by Russian trolls who just wanted to fuck with an opponent to create a false enemy but found themselves at the controls. I’m coming firmly to the opinion that not only does the conservative wing that has taken over the GOP not have any actual principles that they stand for, but that they don’t even care if they’re pulling the temple down upon their heads as long as they can make some claim to be ‘winning’. And Donnie Boy Trump talks so much about how he’s a winner that like moths to a flame they are drawn to him even despite the lack of objective evidence that he’s ever really won anything more concrete than television ratings. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/75 "2018-03-13T18:08:01Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Apparently so. Also quite possibly the first CIA director who’s personally run a system of torture chambers. So, we’re making history left and right today. Mostly right. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/76 "2018-03-13T18:08:34Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has been fired. > > Will be replaced by Pompeo. Given the problems he has had with Tillerson, I’m surprised it took him so long to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/77 "2018-03-13T18:12:00Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I know that that is not the case here, but looking at the Trump supporters in congress I do believe now that smoking crack would be better for them than trying to continue to carry water for this administration. Ah, I will always remember last summer when my partner and I explained the " Don’t tell my Mom–She thinks Im a piano player in a whore house" joke to my then 13 year old. It was in reference to working for the Trump administration. He has has to change that analogy for use with his peer group. I think he uses “gum scraper off movie seats, then I re sell it”. YEs, that would be a less shameful, and definitely more long-teem career path. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/78 "2018-03-13T18:50:11Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > EX-EXXON TEXAN EXEC REX NEXT EX-SEC > > -[Benjy Sarlin](https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/973547421937684481) _Very_ nice! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/79 "2018-03-13T18:52:33Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Fired over Twitter. Turns out Trump never fires someone face to face. You know, you dont fire the man who is fifth in line by Twitter. You call him in, ask him to resign, explain why, and hold a joint press conference. Twitter is no class. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/80 "2018-03-13T19:13:24Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > But…But you guys all told me that Tillerson was in Russia’s pocket, that he was a Putin puppet. And? Just because he was hand-picked by Putin is no guarantee that he’s lived up to Putin & Trump’s expectations. Trump has already fired many whom he himself appointed, and would like to fire more if he could get away with it (_cough_Sessions_cough_). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484.md?page=5)