# Tillerson fired

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 13, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484 "2018-03-13T13:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/81 "2018-03-13T19:20:31Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> This is why the jobs report was so good. Literally half the jobs were filling vacancies in the Trump administration.

Comedy gold.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/82 "2018-03-13T19:26:43Z")

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We aren’t talking about Stormy anymore.

I seriously can’t keep up.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/83 "2018-03-13T19:26:50Z")

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It’s so hard to find good people with no integrity!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/84 "2018-03-13T19:29:49Z")

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> Quoth **astorian** :
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> But…But you guys all told me that Tillerson was in Russia’s pocket, that he was a Putin puppet.

Yup. And so was the ex-spy who got nerve-poisoned in London. That’s how working for Putin works.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/85 "2018-03-13T19:31:09Z")

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What happens to Trump when \*his \*usefulness to Putin starts to become a liability?

Stay away from umbrellas, fella.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/86 "2018-03-13T19:46:07Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Yup. And so was the ex-spy who got nerve-poisoned in London. That’s how working for Putin works.

Apparently none of these guys realize what happens to henchmen of Bond villains, i.e. discarded with little thought _pour encourager les outres_.

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> EX-EXXON TEXAN EXEC REX NEXT EX-SEC
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> -[Benjy Sarlin](https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/973547421937684481)

Soon to be featured in the CW spin-off series, “Angry Ex-Secretary”.

_I was…  
Working hard at a Cabinet job  
Making deals but it made me blue.  
One day I was signing a lot  
So I was fired on Twitter._

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/87 "2018-03-13T19:59:07Z")

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Granted, I’m not the kind of guy who has held a whole lot of jobs in my lifetime, but I think it’s fair to say that I’ve dabbled in jobs that were no good and jobs that were good… but man, I have never ever worked in any job where the organization is as fucked up at the United States Government is today.

Like, the job I had cleaning pools when I was 19, in which the other employees barely paid attention enough to show up to work, now seems like it was a Jack Welch-style tight ship getting ready for a major IPO on Wall Street compared to our Government today.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/88 "2018-03-13T20:04:37Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> We aren’t talking about Stormy anymore.
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> I seriously can’t keep up.

Stormy? I mean, this has eclipsed:  
-Roger Stone talked with Wikileaks in 2016 about dirt on Democrats  
-Trump fired someone else for security concerns and then brought him back into his 2020 campaign  
-ICE spokesman resigns because the administration kept telling him to support administration lies

AND THAT IS TODAY’S NEWS!

Christ on a Crutch.

Oh yeah, a friend of Stormy’s says she listened in on phone calls between the porn star and our president. That’s also today’s news.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/89 "2018-03-13T20:26:41Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> people have also been claiming that Trump fired Tillerson because he wasn’t sufficiently pro-Russia, which seems to contrast with earlier claims that he was hired precisely because he was a pro-Russia stooge.

> [@Jophiel](#):
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> You can probably be soft on Russia AND yet still think that openly murdering people in another country is going a little too far.

Bingo.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/90 "2018-03-13T20:50:03Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What happens to Trump when \*his \*usefulness to Putin starts to become a liability?..

The dirt is released. Please be the pee pee tape!

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/91 "2018-03-13T21:05:39Z")

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Among the problems with Tillerson is that everyone knew Trump didn’t support him. Tillerson had absolutely no authority, and everyone knew it.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/92 "2018-03-13T21:09:49Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Stormy? I mean, this has eclipsed:  
> -Roger Stone talked with Wikileaks in 2016 about dirt on Democrats  
> -Trump fired someone else for security concerns and then brought him back into his 2020 campaign  
> -ICE spokesman resigns because the administration kept telling him to support administration lies
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> AND THAT IS TODAY’S NEWS!
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> Christ on a Crutch.
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> Oh yeah, a friend of Stormy’s says she listened in on phone calls between the porn star and our president. That’s also today’s news.

Right, job done: Stormy barely in the news due to Trump’s Twitter-firing of the Secretary of State.

The problem for Trump is that Stormy will be back in the news, and there are only so many big-deal people Trump can Twitter-fire. I’d guess that McMaster and Mattis are next, and certainly each of those Twitter-firings will dominate the news for a day.

But that’s only _two days_. Stormy is still out there. Waiting patiently to be back at the top of the news.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/93 "2018-03-13T21:13:10Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Among the problems with Tillerson is that everyone knew Trump didn’t support him. Tillerson had absolutely no authority, and everyone knew it.

That’s a problem that anyone who works for Trump is going to have, especially if they’re trying to fill the “adult in the room” role. Bottom line is that Trump is going to trust his brilliant intellect and instincts, and he will disregard any advice that goes against that, no matter how much better informed and more competent that person is. And what’s worse is that he’s likely to publically communicate this disagreement without prior notice via tweet or random announcement at some press conference.

The best you can hope for if you’re a competent person working for Trump is if you’re in an area that doesn’t attract his attention.

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**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/94 "2018-03-13T21:17:52Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Rex Tillerson— a plutocratic oil magnate with deep ties to Russia, profoundly unqualified to be Secretary of State, who caused severe and possibly irrecoverable damage to the State Department and the international standing of the United States— and yet I’m _kind of sorry to see him go_.

I’ve been dealing with terrible cognitive dissonance lately, finding myself on the side of both Tillerson and Sessions. Sometimes you have to embrace the lesser of thirty or forty evils.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/95 "2018-03-13T21:37:11Z")

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Trump is more and more like Twilight Zone kid. Everyone who tells him no is hitting the cornfield. I’m considering becoming a prepper. It can’t hurt, right?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/96 "2018-03-13T21:40:12Z")

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And CNN is reporting the next one to the cornfield will be David Shulkin at the Dept. of Veterans Affairs, to be replaced by Rick Perry.

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**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/97 "2018-03-13T21:43:20Z")

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> [@GoodOmens](#):
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> I’ve been dealing with terrible cognitive dissonance lately, finding myself on the side of both Tillerson and Sessions. Sometimes you have to embrace the lesser of thirty or forty evils.

That goes all the way back at least to Comey, who should have been fired for what he did to Hillary, before we were pissed that Trump fired him.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/98 "2018-03-13T21:48:27Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Among the problems with Tillerson is that everyone knew Trump didn’t support him. Tillerson had absolutely no authority, and everyone knew it.

Apparently he had enough authority to agree with the UK that poisoning people is bad.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/99 "2018-03-13T21:48:42Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> And CNN is reporting the next one to the cornfield will be David Shulkin at the Dept. of Veterans Affairs, to be replaced by Rick Perry.

Does he know what the Dept. of Veterans Affairs does?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/100 "2018-03-13T22:00:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Does he know what the Dept. of Veterans Affairs does?

Well, the fact that he is being tapped to lead this Dept. under this administration clearly shows he does not.

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