# Tillerson fired **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 13, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484 "2018-03-13T13:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/121 "2018-03-14T23:16:35Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > How about a confession? Nixon didn’t even confess until 4 years after he was out of office. I don’t see Trump ever even doing that much. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/122 "2018-03-14T23:38:13Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Nixon didn’t even confess until 4 years after he was out of office. I don’t see Trump ever even doing that much. do you mean the Frost/Nixon interviews? That was 3 years later . He sort of confessed there to obstructing justice. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/123 "2018-03-14T23:51:09Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > do you mean the Frost/Nixon interviews? That was 3 years later . He sort of confessed there to obstructing justice. > **[Awesome Stories](https://www.awesomestories.com/Login)** "Four years after President Nixon resigned, he agreed to a series of interviews with David Frost, a British journalist. The first series of interviews - which took place in May of 1977 - were fairly easy for Nixon, and he avoided most controversial issues. " ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/124 "2018-03-15T00:15:49Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Nixon didn’t even confess until 4 years after he was out of office. I don’t see Trump ever even doing that much. In the first place, thump doesn’t have enough self-awareness to confess to anything. In the second place, he has the attention span of an average goldfish (apologies to goldfish of above average intelligence), meaning his memory resets to zero every nine seconds. Something that happened yesterday is ancient history, let alone a year ago or more. Hell, something he said at the beginning of any sentence he utters is ancient history by the time he gets to the the end of the sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/125 "2018-03-15T00:19:06Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > [Awesome Stories](https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Richard-Nixon-Apologizes-for-Watergate) > > "Four years after President Nixon resigned, he agreed to a series of interviews with David Frost, a British journalist. The first series of interviews - which took place in May of 1977 - were fairly easy for Nixon, and he avoided most controversial issues. " This is rather mysterious. Nixon resigned August 9, 1974. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/126 "2018-03-15T00:34:26Z")
> [@Dropo](#): > > This is rather mysterious. Nixon resigned August 9, 1974. Double-checking, I’ll agree that my cite didn’t know how to do math. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/127 "2018-03-15T01:11:21Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Nixon didn’t even confess until 4 years after he was out of office. I don’t see Trump ever even doing that much. I could see Trump’s mental state declining to the point were he accidently confesses something without even realize what he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/128 "2018-03-15T01:25:28Z")
I could see a “You’re goddamned right I ordered the Code Red!” scenario popping up at some point too. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/129 "2018-03-15T11:57:00Z")
Damn but today’s [Li’l Donnie](http://www.gocomics.com/lil-donnie) comic is a good chuckle today with Rex, Vlad, and Donnie. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/130 "2018-03-16T01:44:15Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > In theory, the Democrats are going to have an astonishing amount of leverage over Trump the instant the House flips over to their side (presuming that it does), since they’ll have full powers to investigate him in all respects - sexual harassment, financial crimes, collusion, obstruction of justice, etc. - or to not investigate him. So they could always blackmail him into pretty much everything they ask for. > > But they’re not going to do that. They’re going to start going to town on him like nothing else, and Trump will do everything he can to attack them, because that’s what he does. Granted, he would probably be happy to fold and give them their way, but that only works if what the other person wants is to strike a deal with you. The Dems are just going to want to prove that he’s a crook, so there won’t be anything that he can give them. You’re forgetting one extra aspect: Trump’s willingness and ability to go along with that. He gets really angry when other people can tell him what to do. It may not be a bluff, but Trump will likely treat it like it is, call them on it, and dare them to follow through with it. So I’m not sure which scenario is actually better. The risk of Trump going along with what they want and getting some accomplishments under his belt might not be worth it for the Dems. We do kinda need to get rid of him to really repair the damage he’s done. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/131 "2018-03-16T13:30:25Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > In the first place, thump doesn’t have enough self-awareness to confess to anything. Now that’s where you’re wrong. Donny Two-scoops is nothing _but_ self-aware. Like a two-year old, he thinks the world revolves around him and everything he wants should be done and everything he thinks – however transiently\* – is the absolute truth. His wife, his children, his business associates, the whole goddam country exist only to pander to his needs and to stroke his ego. \*Your goldfish analogy is totally spot on. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/132 "2018-03-16T16:25:49Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Now that’s where you’re wrong. Donny Two-scoops is nothing _but_ self-aware. Like a two-year old, he thinks the world revolves around him and everything he wants should be done and everything he thinks – however transiently\* – is the absolute truth. His wife, his children, his business associates, the whole goddam country exist only to pander to his needs and to stroke his ego. > > \*Your goldfish analogy is totally spot on. I would modify this to say he sees nothing but himself, but there’s no awareness in what he sees, kwim? It’s like I can look at myself in the mirror wearing a bikini and see myself, but I’m not aware that I look like a manatee in two hankies. I’m not aware that others are staring at me and either laughing or gagging. IOW seeing =/= awareness ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484/133 "2018-03-16T19:21:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s like I can look at myself in the mirror wearing a bikini and see myself, but I’m not aware that I look like a manatee in two hankies. 😃 Thanks for my belly laugh\* of the day, says your sister manatee. 😃 \*And reminder of why I love the Dope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tillerson-fired/810484.md?page=6)