# Tim Burton films **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 21, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990 "2010-08-21T19:39:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990/21 "2010-08-23T19:55:23Z")
**Batman Returns** as a drop off from **Batman** – the best superhero movie up until **Spider-Man 2** – but it was certainly a good film and I’ve found most of Burton’s films quite good. The only real dud was **Planet of the Apes** (I haven’t seen **Alice,** though). **Big Fish** was especially impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990/22 "2010-08-23T21:16:53Z")
I _do_ expect to get around to _Edward Scissorhands_, some day. For the rest of his movies, I guess enjoyed _The Planet of the Apes_ well enough for what it was, although I remember coming out of the theatre feeling a little let down. Needs another viewing, I think - I haven’t seen it since the day of its release. I did not like _The Legend of Sleepy Hollow_ at all. I couldn’t really get past picturing Burton reading the text… > [@](#): > > His head was small, and flat at top, with huge ears, large green glassy eyes, and a long snipe nose, so that it looked like a weather-cock perched upon his spindle neck to tell which way the wind blew. To see him striding along the profile of a hill on a windy day, with his clothes bagging and fluttering about him, one might have mistaken him for the genius of famine descending upon the earth, or some scarecrow eloped from a cornfield. “Ah! Johnny will be perfect, with a little prosthetic make-up.. no.. screw the make-up, Ichabod is a heartthrob. _Brilliant!_” …and it went downhill from there. I did not mind his casting in _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_, and had no problem with the direction they took the character in. I’m a huge Roald Dahl fan, and I thought that the adaptation did justice to the original. I haven’t been able to get through _Alice in Wonderland_ in its entirety, yet. I went into it with my mind as open as possible (knowing it doesn’t claim to be an adaptation,) but I had a real problem with the way the source material was treated, and found it too distracting to carry on. (Things like fragments of “Jabberwocky” being used as action dialog – out of order, and shouted. Blech.) I suspect that there exists of perfect combination of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, lysergic acid diethylamide, and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine which _might_ suppress the portion of my consciousness which raises this sort of objection like a guinea-pig at court, while amping up those bits that’d be content with lush visuals and High Weirdness - however as a new parent the chances of ever indulging in that sort of tinkering in order to watch a movie seem vanishingly remote, so I suppose I’ll just have to wait until I’m in the mood. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990/23 "2010-08-23T23:21:33Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > For the rest of his movies, I guess enjoyed _The Planet of the Apes_ well enough for what it was, although I remember coming out of the theatre feeling a little let down. Needs another viewing, I think - I haven’t seen it since the day of its release. > > I did not like _The Legend of Sleepy Hollow_ at all. I couldn’t really get past picturing Burton reading the text… > > > [@](#): > > > > His head was small, and flat at top, with huge ears, large green glassy eyes, and a long snipe nose, so that it looked like a weather-cock perched upon his spindle neck to tell which way the wind blew. To see him striding along the profile of a hill on a windy day, with his clothes bagging and fluttering about him, one might have mistaken him for the genius of famine descending upon the earth, or some scarecrow eloped from a cornfield. > > “Ah! Johnny will be perfect, with a little prosthetic make-up.. no.. screw the make-up, Ichabod is a heartthrob. _Brilliant!_” > > …and it went downhill from there. There was a lot that could’ve been done with the POTA re-imagining but the forces of money, executive meddling, and time (i.e., it had be completed before guaranteed-to-happen-but-averted-at-the-last-second writer and actor strikes shut down Hollywood) conspired against it. As for the final product, I found it rampagingly pedestrian. I actually kind of liked **Sleepy Hollow** for what is was: a homage to Hammer horror films combined with a plot that can described as “X-Files: 1799”. In fact, I would’ve liked to have seen a series of sequels featuring Ichabod Crane investigating various mysterious and supernatural occurrences in early 19th century America. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990/24 "2010-08-27T05:33:35Z")
Well, I didn’t think that comment would kill the thread but I guess it did. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990/25 "2010-08-27T07:53:34Z")
I rather liked _Sleepy Hollow_, and _Ed Wood_ has one of my all-time favourite lines: Ed: [while debating replacing the deceased Bela Lugosi with the much taller Tom Mason] But can you _sound_ like Bela? Tom: I want to suck your blood. I want to suck your blood! Bunny: Let’s hear you call Boris Karloff a cocksucker. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990/26 "2010-08-28T17:56:32Z")
**Ed Wood** is one of my favorite films. I also loved **Big Fish** and **Sleepy Hollow**. I enjoyed **Sweeney Todd** as well. POTA was dull and grim, though, and **Mars Attacks** looked like it was trying to be funny and clever but kept missing the mark. I thought **Alice…** looked great but was never amusing, and I can barely remember what happened in it, how it ended, or who was involved. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burton-films/550990.md?page=1)