# Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland (2010)

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**Created:** [May 22, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182 "2008-05-22T01:08:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/1 "2008-05-22T01:08:31Z")

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I am an unashamed Tim Burton fan and I think this should be interesting.

The [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1014759/) does not have the casting yet, so I thought maybe we could have some fun with it.

Obviously Johnny Depp will be in it. Probably as the Mad Hatter.  
Helena Bonham Carter could easily be the Queen of Hearts.

Here is the list of major characters:

Alice  
The White Rabbit  
The Mouse  
The Dodo  
The Lory  
The Eaglet  
The Duck  
Bill the Lizard  
The Caterpillar  
The Duchess  
The Cheshire Cat  
The Hatter  
The March Hare  
The Dormouse  
The Queen of Hearts  
The Knave of Hearts  
The King of Hearts  
The Gryphon  
The Mock Turtle

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/2 "2008-05-22T01:16:19Z")

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Tim Burton does some pretty amazing visual stuff, but - :dons flame-retardant suit: - I wish he would take his lack of storytelling ability and cringeworthy casting choices and go home. I’m sick of his movies. And on top of that, this is just unnecessary. How many times has Alice been on screen? We need another?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/3 "2008-05-22T01:21:38Z")

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Who is the current “Christina Ricci” / “Winona Ryder” who would clearly be chosen to play Alice? Someone with a pretty-but-dark side to them, and aged around fifteen. Perhaps Anna-Sophia Robb, who was in Burton’s _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_?

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/4 "2008-05-22T01:34:28Z")

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The Queen of Hearts will be played by Helena Bonham-Carter.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/5 "2008-05-22T01:35:31Z")

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I wish he wasn’t going over such well worn ground. If there’s one work that has been reinterpreted too many times in a style similar to Burton’s it’s Alice in Wonderland (second only to The Wizard of Oz). Give me Tim Burton’s The Jungle Book or Tim Burton’s The Little Mermaid and I might be more interested (Hans Christian Anderson in particular would be a good match for his filter).

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/6 "2008-05-22T01:39:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
Tim Burton does some pretty amazing visual stuff, but - :dons flame-retardant suit: - I wish he would take his lack of storytelling ability and cringeworthy casting choices and go home. I’m sick of his movies. And on top of that, this is just unnecessary. How many times has Alice been on screen? We need another?  
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Yeah, me too. Plus, you totally know the best roles are going to Depp and Bonham Carter no matter what. I mean, they’re great, but maybe a little variety? And his movies all look so over the top now with the graphics and all–Charlie and the Chocolate Factory just kind of overstimulated me. It didn’t look REAL. Sweeney Todd was okay, but again, a little over the top for me. If he went back to his Beetlejuice or Edward Scissorhands or Batman look, I wouldn’t mind. Those actually felt real.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/7 "2008-05-22T01:48:53Z")

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Johnny Depp will play Alice, of course, since she’s the main character.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/8 "2008-05-22T01:51:36Z")

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I can see this. Of course, I’m seeing it as “Tim Burton’s American McGee’s Alice”, but I’m seeing it.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/9 "2008-05-22T01:53:32Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]  
Who is the current “Christina Ricci” / “Winona Ryder” who would clearly be chosen to play Alice? Someone with a pretty-but-dark side to them, and aged around fifteen. Perhaps Anna-Sophia Robb, who was in Burton’s _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_?  
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Maybe Abigail Breslin from Nim’s Island and Little Miss Sunshine.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/10 "2008-05-22T02:01:07Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
I can see this. Of course, I’m seeing it as “Tim Burton’s American McGee’s Alice”, but I’m seeing it.  
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That’s [on the horizon](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466663/), too. I’m more interested in that one. (Loved the game, and I wish he’d found a buyer for his Oz game.)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/11 "2008-05-22T02:05:44Z")

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[QUOTE=SkipMagic]  
That’s [on the horizon](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466663/), too. I’m more interested in that one. (Loved the game, and I wish he’d found a buyer for his Oz game.)  
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Jean Marsh?! Seriously?!

I don’t think I have ever seen more perfect casting in a film…

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/12 "2008-05-22T02:11:55Z")

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Bavmorda! (Jean Marsh is an exellent choice.)

I’m not too sure about Gellar. She’s done convincing drama before, but I’ve only seen Whedon actually weedle it out of her. Here’s hoping she can pull of snarky Alice.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/13 "2008-05-22T02:24:46Z")

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Milla Jovovich was attached to that for a long time. Wonder what happened.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/14 "2008-05-22T02:46:34Z")

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Just _how far_ out into infinity are films projected on IMDB? Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/15 "2008-05-22T03:04:09Z")

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[QUOTE=samclem]  
Just _how far_ out into infinity are films projected on IMDB? Seriously.  
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It looks like 2013.

[http://us.imdb.com/title/tt1065073/](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt1065073/)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/16 "2008-05-22T03:24:50Z")

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[QUOTE=samclem]  
Just _how far_ out into infinity are films projected on IMDB? Seriously.  
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Well filming is suppose to start this year, so I think this one will actually happen.

The Indy Project has been “in production” for years and even had Natalie Portman and Sean Connery listed for a while about 2 or 3 years back.

[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
It looks like 2013.

[http://us.imdb.com/title/tt1065073/](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt1065073/)  
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Good find, what search technique did you use to find that one?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/17 "2008-05-22T03:45:30Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Good find, what search technique did you use to find that one?  
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It’s been on Linklater’s and Hawke’s pages for a couple years.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/18 "2008-05-22T04:11:49Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Well filming is suppose to start this year, so I think this one will actually happen.

The Indy Project has been “in production” for years and even had Natalie Portman and Sean Connery listed for a while about 2 or 3 years back.

Good find, what search technique did you use to find that one?  
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I just went to:

[http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Years/2009/](http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Years/2009/)

and went ahead year by year.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/19 "2008-05-22T04:17:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
I just went to:

[http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Years/2009/](http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Years/2009/)

and went ahead year by year.  
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Thanks, that looks useful for many type of searches.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-2010/450182/20 "2008-05-22T07:06:58Z")

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Marvelous! Tim Burton will be the perfect director for Alice in Wonderland. And I’m sure Danny Elfman will produce a haunting and magical score.

Ellen Page should play Alice.  
In any case, they will have to try to surpass the [1999 edition](http://www.amazon.com/Alice-Wonderland-Robbie-Coltrane/dp/6305372837) of Alice in Wonderland. I’m truly delighted with the news!

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