# Tim Horton's enters the NYC donuts and coffee fray......so, what's good?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-hortons-enters-the-nyc-donuts-and-coffee-fray-so-whats-good/502973>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 14, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-hortons-enters-the-nyc-donuts-and-coffee-fray-so-whats-good/502973 "2009-07-14T13:33:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-hortons-enters-the-nyc-donuts-and-coffee-fray-so-whats-good/502973/61 "2009-07-20T13:30:48Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I don’t understand the appeal of doughnuts.

Bad Canadian ! Don’t you know that it is one of the four Candian food groups ?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-hortons-enters-the-nyc-donuts-and-coffee-fray-so-whats-good/502973/62 "2009-07-20T18:25:27Z")

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> [@detop](#):
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> Bad Canadian ! Don’t you know that it is one of the four Candian food groups?

Nah, got it covered: fat, salt, beer, and beaver.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-hortons-enters-the-nyc-donuts-and-coffee-fray-so-whats-good/502973/63 "2009-07-21T01:04:12Z")

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> [@Spezza](#):
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> Poison. Delicious poison, but poison nonetheless.
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> Actually, it is a simple mixture of “Java mix” and water. The Java mix comes in a 1 litre(?) bag which is poured into a bucket and mixed with about 4 times as much water. Without stirring or anything the mixture is poured straight into the top of the Ice Cap machine. Somewhat surprisingly the Java mix has a viscosity identical to water.
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> To make an Ice Cap for a customer you simply add a disturbing amount of cream to the cup, pour on the slurp Ice Cap mix from the machine, and hold the cup as it is stirred at high speed by the whipper thingy. If you must consume this poison I would suggest having it made with milk or chocolate milk. Having it made with milk instead of cream saves around a 100 calories. If you’re having a normal large Ice Cap you have to realize you’re drinking _shurgs_ two ounces of cream.
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> Also, regular Ice Cap drinkers will notice differences in the drink (some are more frothy than others). Essentially any difference is because either the temperature (and therefore consistency) of the Ice Cap mixture coming out of the machine or how well the employee manages the stirring of the mixture. Chocolate and regular milk froth better than cream.

Thanks for the explanation. Frankly, it sounds nauseating to me, but then I’m not a huge fan of sweet and creamy in relation to coffee. I like my coffee (espresso) mixed only with hot water and a single pack of raw sugar.

I’m not sure TH would appeal to me from the coffee point-of-view, but I do have a weakness for apple fritters that necessitates I stay far, far away from them.

Incidentally, I saw one in Richmond, IN a few weeks ago, but didn’t have the opportunity to stop. I was surprised to see it having read Canadopers wax poetic over TH for years.

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