# Tim Tebow as tight end

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [May 21, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639 "2021-05-21T17:17:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/21 "2021-05-23T16:47:07Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I think that this is the core of it. Tebow has an exceptionally fervent fan base (with a high degree of overlap among Evangelical Christians), and so, he has always been a PR generator, as well as a vehicle for selling merchandise.

And many of them are doubling down on Tebow as the anti-Kaepernick.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/22 "2021-05-23T17:04:53Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> And many of them are doubling down on Tebow as the anti-Kaepernick.

Seems kinda funny to me; Kaepernick just kneeled for the anthem. Tebow would kneel every time the team scored.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/23 "2021-05-23T17:15:43Z")

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AKA: the Mets plan.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/24 "2021-05-23T23:52:28Z")

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I gotta know… Who is that 5’5”, 150 lb WR crammed down in the left bottom corner of the chart?!

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/25 "2021-05-23T23:56:34Z")

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That’s a bit of a cheat. Trindon Holliday was carried as a WR/kick-returner on the roster, but guess which one he did like 99% of the time?

> **[NFL.com | Official Site of the National Football League](https://www.nfl.com/players/trindon-holliday/stats/career)**
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> The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/26 "2021-05-24T00:02:19Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Trindon Holliday

Thanks for that. According to Wikipedia:

> At 5’5", Holliday is one of the shortest players in NFL history.

No wonder I was startled by those physical stats. 😯

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/27 "2021-05-24T05:25:48Z")

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So I take it that minor league baseball thing didn’t work out? 🙂

I’m honestly not sure what I’m supposed to think of this…this has all the earmarks of a publicity stunt, and those are dime a dozen. I guess I’m mostly curious if any of his old fanbase is still clamoring for him. I get that, for whatever reason, they were ultra-hardcore and had a level of denial that would make Flat Earthers blush (“Just give him another chaaaaance!” He got it. 1/7 for -1 yard and an interception, 0 passer rating. Remember that?). But that was _years_ ago. No doubt the fundies still love him and will support him in anything he does, but are they still insisting that he be allowed to play in the NFL? At some point even they have to close the chapter. Probably with “working in mysterious ways” or whatever.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/28 "2021-05-24T14:20:29Z")

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Tebow is too old, too slow, has no experience playing the position, and hasn’t played football for 6 years. His hiring was simply to sell a metric shit-ton of jerseys to idiot yokels and give Urban Meyer a chance to swing his dick around.

If Tebow makes the roster (he shouldn’t), Meyer will lose a lot of his players by giving his pet project a spot on the roster over another payer who will contribute more. Bellicheck may have the juice to pull it off, but not a first year, lying, domestic abuse protecting, fetid piece of garbage like Meyer.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/29 "2021-05-24T16:05:48Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> His weight is fine, and his height is below the median, but not ridiculous. That said, as everyone has pointed out he is 33, and as far as I know he has never had to do any blocking on an end-run or choose in an instant between blocking two different end rushers.

He’s still on the small side for a tight end overall. 6’3"/245 is roughly where the red circle is:

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/A1irmH7.png "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/A1irmH7)

Being 33 just kind of makes it all harder for him. I do think the most optimal path for a 33 year old to play tight end in the NFL having never played it before, would be the one that has him being taller and heavier than the median, and being primarily a blocking tight end. That would have him leverage his size and strength, not unpracticed skills, or diminished speed. Although blocking isn’t easier than catching passes, so it’s unpracticed skills all around I suppose. But at least he’d have size and speed.

As it is, he’s inexperienced, small, and average speed. I’m not sure what he has to offer on the field, that just about any younger, larger tight end already does.

I can see the merchandising angle though; they’d sell a lot of jerseys and stuff- I’d even be willing to bet that they’d easily profit even with the cost of the league minimum salary. The question is whether it would be worth the opportunity cost of having one of 45 roster slots taken up with someone who is basically there to sell merchandise, and not play.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/30 "2021-05-24T19:02:32Z")

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Tim Tebow has already tried to play a receiver in the NFL. The result was the single worst play by the Jets that year – and it was the year of the butt fumble.

[![](https://i.gifer.com/8gyc.gif) ](https://i.gifer.com/8gyc.gif)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/31 "2021-05-24T20:01:46Z")

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That just looks like a slightly underthrown ball and good defense to me…

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/32 "2021-05-24T20:03:17Z")

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It hit him on the helmet and he didn’t even see it coming. He didn’t even put his arms up until it hit him.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/33 "2021-05-24T20:04:40Z")

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Weird, I’m seeing the defender’s hand hit it, but it’s not high-resolution…

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/34 "2021-05-24T20:05:32Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> It hit him on the helmet and he didn’t even see it coming.

It’s difficult for me to see if the ball hit him in the helmet, or if it hit the defender’s hand, and then the defender’s hand hit Tebow’s helmet (which is what causes him to duck). And, as @Maserschmidt notes, it wasn’t a well-thrown ball.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/35 "2021-05-24T20:12:19Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> And, as @Maserschmidt notes, it wasn’t a well-thrown ball.

I’m guessing Mark Sanchez threw it. So of course.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/36 "2021-05-24T20:52:02Z")

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It hit him in the head. But the main problem is a poorly-run route, which makes the pass look worse than it was. He needed to make a sharp cut, take one step and turn back for the ball. Instead he kind of gradually curves around and looks back two steps too late. With a sharper cut, the defender isn’t in position to even get close to the ball.

Those are the kind of skills it takes a while to develop, and at his age Tebow doesn’t have the physical attributes or time to learn them.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/37 "2021-05-24T21:09:22Z")

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That’s what make this all so emetic to me - underneath it all, it is a politically charged move. It has all the earmarks of whipping up the MAGA crowd, and triggering the libs and Kapernick bitter-enders.

I don’t have anything against Tebow, fundamentally, but his wide-eyed, aw-shucks, born-again, narcissistic schtick is tiresome. He’s kinda like a good-boy version of Trump.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/38 "2021-05-25T14:38:14Z")

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I don’t see why y’all are hatin’ on such a nice, clean-cut Christian young man.

He’s not into drugs, tattoos, sex and bar fights like all them others.

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**Author:** ![LauderdaleFort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/977dab/32.png) [@LauderdaleFort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LauderdaleFort)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/39 "2021-05-25T15:58:49Z")

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Narcissistic? He’s pretty much down-to-earth, at least compared to most pro athletes. You never hear him saying “I was the next Montana!!” or stuff like that. He acknowledges is shortcomings, even in baseball. He did an interview with Pat McAffee a two years ago and you can see him shrugging off praise and taking the criticism.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tim-tebow-as-tight-end/942639/40 "2021-05-25T16:13:08Z")

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> [@LauderdaleFort](#):
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> Narcissistic? He’s pretty much down-to-earth, at least compared to most pro athletes.

I dunno. His humility is pretty overt and attention-seeking.

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