# Time cover story on LOTR:TTT **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 26, 2002, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794 "2002-11-26T00:41:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/21 "2002-11-26T21:24:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*Eowyn vs. Arwen? No contest. My jaw dropped the first time I saw the trailer with Miranda Otto as Eowyn, and I haven’t quite managed to get it back in place yet. \*\* Huh? She’s perfect! Maybe not tall enough, but PJ can fix that. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/22 "2002-11-26T21:27:43Z")
Oops, I think I may have misread your post, mg. ---
**Author:** ![andymurph64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@andymurph64](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andymurph64)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/23 "2002-11-26T21:35:57Z")
If you don’t like action, you will hate the third movie! It’s been awhile since I read it but I remember huge battles. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/24 "2002-11-26T21:37:25Z")
Jaw dropping is a good thing, **Munch**. In the case of Eowyn, it’s a very, very good thing. Holy crap, that girl is hot! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Banger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@Banger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banger)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/25 "2002-11-26T21:56:41Z")
I’m even more excited than before just from reading that spoiler-filled article. I have my FOTR:EE movie ticket at home and I’m beginning a re-read, the first in several years, of **The Silmarillion** , **The Hobbit** , and **The Lord of the Rings**. I’ve got Tolkien fever baby!!! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Engywook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bc8723/32.png) [@Engywook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engywook)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/26 "2002-11-26T21:59:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Terminus Est \* > \*\*You haven’t read the book, have you? \*\* \ Oh, there’s a book? :eek: Next you’ll be telling me that _The Two Towers_ hasn’t got a thing to do with 9/11. 😛 \ > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Chronos_ > **If nothing else, in the book, Aragorn was very troubled when he (rather quickly) realized what Eowyn thought of him. One gets the impression that he was rather tempted, even though he knew he couldn’t have her.** Meant as a question more than as an argument: I agree that he was troubled - and I can’t help but think that he found a marginally “fair-spoken” way of telling Eowyn to go back to the kitchen. But as for Aragorn being tempted? I admit this could be too subtle for me. I’ve always read it as being rather one-sided. If Aragorn’s feelings for Eowyn are really meant to be a part of the story, I’d be interested to know why this seems to be the case. But if Aragorn is indeed interested, I suppose it might be interesting for Aragorn to suffer a moral qualm - the choice between breaking Arwen’s heart, or Arwen’s immortality, could be very acute here. That, IMHO, is something better addressed in a book than in a film… ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/27 "2002-11-26T22:39:38Z")
Here, read the first full review. [http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/hotdog/imagepages/image4.shtml](http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/hotdog/imagepages/image4.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/28 "2002-11-26T23:30:56Z")
You know, when you’re 46, you shouldn’t wish for time to pass more quickly, but I do. December 18 will _never_ get here! ::rocking back and forth in a fetal position, staring at the calendar:: ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/29 "2002-11-26T23:38:30Z")
Check out the official site\* for info on Massive (the computer program that handles battles). Helm’s Deep info December! Brian - [www.lordoftherings.net](http://www.lordoftherings.net) “Give me a year and 100 of my kin and I would make this a place that armies would break upon like water” -Gimli, describing Helm’s Deep ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/30 "2002-11-27T01:44:50Z")
Was the Time Magazine article a review of the movie? And if so, what did they think? I don’t want to read it due to spoilers (tho’ hell, I’ve read the book). ---
**Author:** ![CyberPundit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@CyberPundit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyberPundit)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/31 "2002-11-27T02:46:50Z")
No it wasn’t a review though the writer has probably seen the film. The main comment about the quality of the film was that it was more action-packed and a (rather surprising IMO) quote from Vigo Mortensen: “It’s impressive,” says Two Towers star Viggo Mortensen, “but if you have that much emphasis on special effects, it’s unavoidable that you’ll lose some of the poetry and intimacy of the story.” Actually if you have read the books I don’t think the spoilers matter much. I,myself, haven’t which is why I found the article rather annoying in that respect. In fact I am quite surprised the editors let the spoilers stay. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/32 "2002-11-27T03:39:08Z")
So, we’ve got an Eowyn with a waif-like build. Now, _that_’s believable. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/33 "2002-11-27T03:45:05Z")
slight hijack: soundtrack info at [http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/](http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/) (spoilers! and you can listen to “Gollum’s Song”) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/34 "2002-11-27T05:40:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by N9IWP \* > \*\*slight hijack: > soundtrack info at [http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/](http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/) > > (spoilers! and you can listen to “Gollum’s Song”) > > Brian \*\* I’ve heard it already. It’s equally amazing as the first one. I don’t know if it’s better, but it is equal at least. I like tracks “Foundations of Stone”, “Forth Eorlingas”, and “The White Rider”. ---
**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/35 "2002-11-27T05:44:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by N9IWP \* > \*\*slight hijack: > soundtrack info at [http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/](http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/) > > (spoilers! and you can listen to “Gollum’s Song”) > \*\* Thanks for the link! Gollum’s Song = _drooooooooooooooool_ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/36 "2002-11-27T05:56:50Z")
Odd. I never pictured the Eorlingas as blond. Are they supposed to be? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Harvey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@Max\_Harvey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Harvey)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/37 "2002-11-27T05:57:13Z")
(Spoilers for TTT, ROTK and the new Harry Potter) I read somewhere else that Shelob was pushed back to ROTK. It’s a shame – after “Eight-Legged Freaks” and “Chamber of Secrets”, 2003 could have been the Year of Giant Spiders. You can never have too many giant spiders! ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/38 "2002-11-27T06:23:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Terminus Est \* > Odd. I never pictured the Eorlingas as blond. Are they supposed to be? You bet they are! I’ll post one of my favorite passages from the book (about 40% of the way into Chapter 2 of Book III), that shows that the Riders of Rohan are blonde. I don’t think it’s a spoiler. > [@](#): > > Aragorn saw a shadow on the distant green, a dark, swift-moving blur. He cast himself upon the gorund and linstened again intently. But Legolas stood beside him, shading his bringht elves-eyes with his long sleder hand… > ‘Riders!’ cried Aragorn, springing to his feet. ‘Many riders on swift steeds are coming towards us!’ > ‘Yes,’ said Legolas, ‘there are one hundred and five. Yellow is their hair, and bright are their spears. Their leader is very tall.’ > Aragorn smiled. ‘Keen are the eyes of the Elves,’ he said. > ‘Nay! The riders are little more than five leagues distant,’ said Legolas. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/39 "2002-11-27T06:32:22Z")
Thanks, **Achernar**. Yet another little detail of Middle-Earth that I’ve missed, even though I’ve read it umpty-ump times. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794/40 "2002-11-27T07:57:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > \*\*So, we’ve got an Eowyn with a waif-like build. > > Now, _that_’s believable. ☹ \*\* What? Are you going from [this picture?](http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/261002_syt_poster.jpg) Miranda Otto is no more “waif-like” than she is “fat” (you just know that some moron is going to say that) and from photos she looks like a perfectly acceptable Eowyn. (If she’s a waif, then Bernard Hill is a tiny dink, huh? She’s taller than he is!) A quick web search turned up this description of Eowyn at [http://www.planet-tolkien.com/](http://www.planet-tolkien.com/) (people who probably know their Eowyns): **"Because she was tall, slim, and graceful and had golden hair, she was known as the White Lady of Rohan."** Miranda sure fits that description. See the movie, see her in action, then come back and bitch about her if you still feel that way. Or stay home. Whatever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-cover-story-on-lotr-ttt/138794.md?page=3)