# TIME ENOUGH FOR LOVE question: were Laz & Lor lesbian lovers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 8, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-enough-for-love-question-were-laz-lor-lesbian-lovers/700796 "2014-10-08T20:22:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-enough-for-love-question-were-laz-lor-lesbian-lovers/700796/21 "2014-10-16T06:48:49Z")
In his last novel, or maybe even the last two, it was mentioned that Laz and Lor had paired with Hazel Stone’s grandchildren, the twins. They may have been bi-curious or bisexual, but I doubt they were were lesbians. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-enough-for-love-question-were-laz-lor-lesbian-lovers/700796/22 "2014-10-16T14:46:36Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I defy you – or others, since you say that memory fails you – to point to a single scene implying that LLs 2 & 3 ever touched one another sexually. You may feel free to include scenes from TO SAIL BEYOND THE SUNSET and THE CAT WHO WALKS THROUGH WALLS, though anyone who even _types_ the title of that story with Zeb and Hilda and the other two will be beaten with a stick. Pretty sure I was like 16 or so when I read Heinlein. I’ll be damned I’m going to read that dreck again just to try to prove you wrong. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-enough-for-love-question-were-laz-lor-lesbian-lovers/700796/23 "2014-10-16T16:38:18Z")
Well, geez, why ask us? Use your own Continua Buggy and go ask them. Your best bet is to catch Hilda, Zeb et al. when they’re considering settling down to have babies as I think that’s the only time they visit our continua. Granted, they’ll probably shoot first and ask questions later; might want to send a minion. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-enough-for-love-question-were-laz-lor-lesbian-lovers/700796/24 "2014-10-16T16:41:38Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > In his last novel, or maybe even the last two, it was mentioned that Laz and Lor had paired with Hazel Stone’s grandchildren, the twins. They may have been bi-curious or bisexual, but I doubt they were were lesbians. \*\* Three of the last four. The Laz-Lor/Cas-Pol quartet is mentioned in _Number of the Beast_, _The Cat Who Walks Through Walls_, and _To Sail Beyond the Sunset_. Though I don’t think the girls would have understood themselves as bisexual, and certainly not bi-curious, as both those terms have implications of not being the norm. Pansexuality was pretty much the norm among Howards of their era. > [@Chronos](#): > > I didn’t say that Woodrow was enthusiastic about conventional masturbation; I said that Lapis and Lorelei were enthusiastic about sex with Woodrow, despite claiming that it would be masturbation. Oh, that. They were just manipulating him to get him over his incest taboo, which as 31st (41st? 51st) century Howards they lacked. Apparently. The bit with Maureen contradicts that, as does Ira’s reluctance to bed Hamadryad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-enough-for-love-question-were-laz-lor-lesbian-lovers/700796.md?page=1)