# Time for dark beer - what's your's?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** beer\
**Created:** [October 26, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-for-dark-beer-whats-yours/823545 "2018-10-26T15:20:42Z")\
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I haven’t been able to drink beer for a few years, but Yuengling Porter was heaven on earth. Loved it. If I could have one beer now, it would be this.

I started drinking beer with Coors light, back when I could hardly stand beer. Later I graduated to Killian’s Irish Red, then tried dark beers on tap at local pubs, the names of which escape me. Sam Adams Scotch ale was a tasty sipping beer, but no fun to guzzle, as I sadly discovered when I brought a case camping with my friends. Yuengling Porter, though, will reward any drinking pace.

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**Yuengling Porter** is my all the time stock, but I love a good Founder’s Porter or Yards General Washington’s Tavern Porter when I’m willing to splurge a little.

The Yuengling’s I usually find for about $7.00 to $7.29 per six-pack.

I enjoy the Saranac Caramel Porter on the rare occasions I can find it. Fuller’s London Porter is another good but expensive one.

**This time of year,** Hacker-Pschorr Original Oktoberfest (Oktoberfest Märzen) is awesome though pricey.

I also enjoy a **milk stout**.  
Left Hand Brewing Company makes 2, Milk Stout and Milk Stout Nitro, they are both excellent.  
Dragon’s Milk is excellent but very pricey.  
Lancaster Brewing Company makes a nice one that I sometimes find for only $9 a six.

Also in the almost desert category are some **vanilla porters** like Breckenridge Brewery & Leinenkugel’s Snowdrift Vanilla Porter.

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I had Guinness last week in Ireland. Wonderful. I had Guinness yesterday in England. Never again.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-for-dark-beer-whats-yours/823545/44 "2018-10-28T16:43:32Z")

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I’m curious, what was different about it?

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-for-dark-beer-whats-yours/823545/45 "2018-10-28T17:28:02Z")

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I won’t turn down a Black Butte porter, but the Obsidian Stout is my go-to. Unless Old Rasputin is available. Double Mountain makes a really nice Black Irish stout.

Side note - if you visit the brewery/restaurant in Fort Bragg to get your Old Rasputin, they make some of the best fish & chips around, to wash down with it.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-for-dark-beer-whats-yours/823545/46 "2018-10-28T18:30:34Z")

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Negra Modelo and Dos Equis Amber are good go-to ambers, and Guinness and Deshutes Black Butte Porter are good darks. Had Edmund Fitzgerald porter from Great Lakes Brewery when I was in Ohio, and I wish it’s make its way west a bit.

Optimator is decent double Bock, but I’d dearly love to get ahold of some Schlenkerla _rauchbier_.

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I bought some Dinkel Acker Octoberfest today. That was quite tasty. First time I had it. Almost as good as Hacker-Pschorr’s, but $3 cheaper! I also bought some Left Hand Brewing Company Milk Stout Nitro. Very tasty, but strong and pricey. This thread inspired me to treat myself though.

> [@ExTank](#):
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> … Had Edmund Fitzgerald porter from Great Lakes Brewery when I was in Ohio, and I wish it’s make its way west a bit.

One of the few Porters I do not like. That and Southern Tier.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I’m curious, what was different about it?

I’ve never ordered a Guinness in England, but I assume that the barkeep pees in it, because the English have been pigs to the Irish since before Famine Times.

But a freshly pulled Guinness in the Free State is one of the world’s great pleasures.

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> [@4d3fect](#):
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> Velvet Merkin for me. Nice and soft. Hard to get though. Velvet Merlin seems to be widely available. Here anyway.

> [@Turek](#):
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> I wouldn’t be able to make it past the name.

Speaking of names, Wychwood’s **Dunkel Fester** is an unremarkable “disturbingly dark” beer but ya gotta love the name (they also do one called “Toothless Hooker”, which in theory is a rugby reference).

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Dragon’s Milk.  
> [All Beer - New Holland Brewing in Holland, MI](http://newhollandbrew.com/beer/dragons-milk/)

Agreed, Dragon’s Milk is excellent.

> [@Twoflower](#):
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> I won’t turn down a Black Butte porter, but the Obsidian Stout is my go-to.

These are both decent every-day darks, but Deschutes’ [The Abyss](https://www.deschutesbrewery.com/beer/the-abyss/) is out of this world. Try to get your hands on some when it’s released in November.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> These are both decent every-day darks, but Deschutes’ [The Abyss](https://www.deschutesbrewery.com/beer/the-abyss/) is out of this world. Try to get your hands on some when it’s released in November.

I’ll keep an eye out for it! I once had some bourbon-barrel-aged Old Rasputin that was a real treat.

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I’m mostly an IPA guy. When a darker brew is desired, Brother Thelonious from North Coast fits the bill. Plus my local Costco often carries it, so bargain.

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> Enjoying revisiting the [Edmund Fitzgerald](https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/73/226/) from Great Lakes Brewing.

Ah, yes, how could I forget that one! Great choice. I also enjoy a basic Irish stout like Guinness or Murphy’s for when I want something dark, but light, if that makes any sense. (That is to say, Guinness is a very drinkable and fairly light beer compared to the types of stouts everybody else seems to make these days.) And I’m always up for a nice oatmeal stout of any kind, with its dry, grain-like flavor. Last night, I had a Sam Adams Octoberfest, and was reminded that I quite like their take on the style, in addition to my usual German choices.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Great Basin Brewery has Wild Horse which is pretty good.

Do you mean Outlaw Milk Stout? Wild Horse is an amber/altbier.

Second Black Butte, Old Rasputin. Founder’s was tasty, but I think not as good as the accolades I heard before trying it. Deschutes also makes the Abyss, which is 11.4% and delicious and pricey.

Fifty Fifty Eclipse

Not a stout or porter, but Big Sky Moose Drool.

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Deschutes also makes the Abyss, which is 11.4% and delicious and pricey.

_11.4%?_ Jesus. And I thought Belgian beers were strong.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> _11.4%?_ Jesus. And I thought Belgian beers were strong.

They still rule, strength-wise: [Black Damnation VI.](https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/15237/70633/)

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> _11.4%?_ Jesus. And I thought Belgian beers were strong.

Some of the Belgian quads get that high. The ubiquitous (at least around here) Rochefort 10 is 11.3%, for example.

And then once you get to the Imperial whatevers, you’re looking in the double digit ABV range. Like, for example, the relatively common (once again, at least around here) Dogfish Head 120 is 18% ABV. So is their Worldwide Stout.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> _11.4%?_ Jesus. And I thought Belgian beers were strong.

The most famous stout is weak as shit. Guinness is Coors Light strength.

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I like original Guinness, but it’s like sludge. Too thick! I usually like a good IPA but, for a change of pace, I like a “Black and Tan”. I add about 1/3 Guinness to 2/3 IPA, and I get a nice blend that has the Guinness taste but isn’t as thick and rich.

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> The most famous stout is weak as shit. Guinness is Coors Light strength.

Yeah, it’s very light. 4.2% It was my beer of choice when I was losing weight. I really don’t understand comments that it is “like sludge.” Maybe because it’s a nitro pour? I mean, in that case, it does have a creamier mouthfeel, but it still goes down easy. Otherwise, it is quite light for a stout. You want sludge, try Three Floyd’s Dark Lord or Goose Island Bourbon County Stout or any kind of Imperial IPA.

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