Windwalker, I agree with you 100%.
Good call on Beck, Foldup Rabbit. Odelay is just a fantastic album from start to finish and definitely should be on the list.
As for Doggystyle vrs Da Chronic - I suppose this comes down to influence vrs album quality. I think Chronic was more influential (obviously, since it directly spawned Doggystyle), but song for song I think Doggystyle is way better.
WHERE is Kevin Federline?
And such a list cannot be complete without at least one Bony M. album.
Currently proving his self worth.
Courtney Love is a fucked up freak, but Live Through This is one of the title that belongs firmly on that list. If you don’t know it just because Love’s public persona makes you not wanna buy a Hole album, well then that’s *your * loss.
And PJ Harvey is one of the first 2 or 3 names that occur to me whenever anyone starts that discussion about what present day artists are gonna stand the test of time, like the great artists of the past. That’s not the album I’da picked for her, but Polly Jean Harvey is one of the 5 or so most important artists working today.
And, Modest Mouse? don’t see it. Talk to me in ten years, if you still even remember them. Still, I agree that it’s a weird list. What, like half of the 2000 releases are 40+ years old. That’s just weird. And no list weighted toward influential artists can be taken seriously if it omits Kate Bush. And no list of greatest albums can be taken seriously it omits Jeff Buckley’s Grace. And how you gonna name two Prince titles but leave off Dirty Mind?
Where’s Peter Gabriel? Where’s XTC? Weird list.
See, I love Buckley, Gabriel, and XTC (especially), but you’re narrowing it down to 100–there’s going to be lots of great albums left off. I don’t feel any of these artists belong on the Top 100 albums of all time. None of those even made Rolling Stone’s Top 100, either. (I was, however, happy to see my pet Odessey and Oracle make the Top 100 on that list. However, Loveless, my #2 album of all time behind Pet Sounds, falls in at #216. Can’t win 'em all.)
Hole’s album places #466 on that list. I think they’re a fine band with a decent album, and that sounds like about the right place in the rock echelon for them.
So, how come “influence” is used to judge a record’s value? 
I’m a fan of all the R.E.M. albums, especially Document and Automatic for the People. My favorite, though, is Lifes Rich Pageant. So I wish that one were on the list.
It’s just a list. 100 albums isn’t really a lot.
I’m pissed that Immaculate Fools didn’t make the cut. Why, Tragic Comedy is just brilliant!
Regarding best of lists, this site is brilliant:
Forget about influential then. Kate Bush’s Hounds of Love and The Dreaming are two of the best albums EVER, by anybody.
No Kate Bush? Ignorant listmaker.
But whooo, a whole 12 spots were taken by female solo artists/fronted bands! We’re movin’ up!
:rolleyes:
Right; a commentary on the insular nature of such lists. I’m pretty intimately familiar with almost all of the albums on the list, and I’d still include The Dreaming, Grace, English Settlement, and *Security *on the list before I’d include a good couple dozen titles that made it. I’d also include Jane Siberry’s When I Was a Boy and Mary Margaret O’Hara’s Miss America. (And before you go calling *me *insular, the former has been acknowledged by NYTimes critics as worthy of such praise, and the latter by English critics; both albums have been included on their own share of alltime-top-100 lists. And note, as pointed out by Equipoise, the dearth of female artists that such inclusions would ameliorate. )
TIME pretty much defines “middlebrow.” Not one of those listings has anything approaching “snob appeal.”
Man, I feel totally out of touch. Granted, this is not a “most popular” or “highest selling” album list, but I really thought Boston would show up. The highest selling debut album of all time, 11th best selling album of all time, 17 million sold. One of those albums everyone knows about. Do you do that when you’re an MIT nerd recording an album in your basement with some unknown musicians, if the album isn’t pretty damn good?
Then I looked over at Rolling Stone, and couldn’t find it in their top 500 either…
So incredibly out of touch.
How about that Steve Miller Band one with the horse on the cover that everyone and their mother has? That should count and it should be on there, darn it.
Considering they have been together for over ten years already and have 5 fantastic albums under their belt, I have a feeling I will still remember them. Don’t let this newfound explosion fool you, they have been making some of the best rock music for years now. As for Hole, what pulykamell said.
Blender has it’s article listing the most disasterous albums of all time . I find it interesting that Garth Brooks managed to make both lists. Quite a career!
Richard and Linda Thompson’s **Shoot Out The Lights ** absolutely needs to be on that list.
Um, yeah, I know; I have their first album and a couple of the subsequent ones. They’re good at what they do, but they’re not gonna stand the test of time because what they do isn’t essentially new or interesting. Remember when the Googoo Dolls were gonna save rock’n’roll? Neither do I.
Same here. MMT was pretty much a compilation/hodgepodge itself, consisting of earlier singles (“Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane”, “All You Need Is Love/Baby You’re A Rich Man”, “Hello Goodbye/I Am The Walrus”) and fleshed out with sub-par and/or useless crap (title tune, “Blue Jay Way”, “Flying”, the cloying “Fool on the Hill”).
No point getting upset about a Best Albums list compiled by Time, though - they’re just a little more out of touch than Rolling Stone when it comes to music.
Kanye West should not be on that list.
Hole’s Live Through This was more than likely written by Kurt- compare the quality of the songs on this album, recroded after Courtney met Kurt, with the writing on Hole’s first album Pretty on the In(out?)side if you have doubts.