# Time Person of the Year

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 9, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921 "2013-12-09T20:35:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/41 "2013-12-11T12:58:35Z")

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And he’s even better-looking than Miley Cyrus.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/42 "2013-12-11T12:59:35Z")

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Now I’m willing to commit and say its going to be the Pope.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/43 "2013-12-11T13:11:46Z")

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I just heard on a news broadcast that five minutes ago, Time had announced that Pope Frank was first and Snowden second, so the TSD board was right on.

Who is Miley Cyrus. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/44 "2013-12-11T13:22:16Z")

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I narrowed my choices down to Pope Francis and Edward Snowden, and ended up choosing Snowden. Pope Francis is a fine man and will no doubt have a significant impact on Catholics but I felt that the release of data by Edward Snowden impacted a much larger audience.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/45 "2013-12-11T13:58:10Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> I narrowed my choices down to Pope Francis and Edward Snowden, and ended up choosing Snowden. Pope Francis is a fine man and will no doubt have a significant impact on Catholics but I felt that the release of data by Edward Snowden impacted a much larger audience.

There are 1.2 Billion Catholics in the world. What appears to be an attempted paradigm shift in the church is huge. Snowden will soon be forgotten and what he did is transitory.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/46 "2013-12-11T14:29:42Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Who is Miley Cyrus. Seriously.

The latest teenybopper-turned-drug-addled-slut-for-record-sales.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/47 "2013-12-11T15:12:54Z")

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I didn’t see this poll until after I heard the announcement, so it was an easy vote. Before hand though, I might have given the edge to Snowden.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/48 "2013-12-11T15:39:26Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Pope Francis ought to win. I have a lot of problems with him, his being Catholic and all, but the way it seems to me, the last Pope’s message was:
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> > [@Ratzinger](#):
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> > SEX IS SINFUL AND AWFUL! also poverty is a problem.
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> Francis seems to say:
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> > [@Francis](#):
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> > POVERTY IS A PROBLEM! also sex is sinful

For the record - and I know you’re paraphrasing - the Vatican doesn’t think sex is sinful. They want nothing more than married Catholic couples to be fruitful and multiply and make tons and tons of new Catholic babies.

All other sex is sinful, yes.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/49 "2013-12-11T16:16:14Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> And he’s even better-looking than Miley Cyrus.

Nice 😃

True, too. Which is a shame, because Miley used to be cute.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/50 "2013-12-11T17:09:48Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> I narrowed my choices down to Pope Francis and Edward Snowden, and ended up choosing Snowden. Pope Francis is a fine man and will no doubt have a significant impact on Catholics but I felt that the release of data by Edward Snowden impacted a much larger audience.

That’s pretty much where I came down. I think Francis _will_ make a bigger difference over time, but not yet. So far the main effect of his words has been to make a lot of people, inside and outside of the RCC, feel better about the Church.

And maybe someone else would have played Snowden’s part eventually if Snowden hadn’t done so. But we don’t know either how long we would have had to wait, or whether they would have done it in nearly as effective a manner. There were a lot of ways this could have been fucked up by a potential whistleblower in ways that would have discredited the whole business.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/51 "2013-12-12T03:14:43Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The latest teenybopper-turned-drug-addled-slut-for-record-sales.

I guess I could have googled him. But thanks.

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**Author:** ![Cerealbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Cerealbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerealbox)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/52 "2013-12-12T03:16:57Z")

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The Time person of the year can’t be taken seriously. Some of the people chosen have been absurd. Osama didn’t even wind up being the most influential person of the year in 2001 or in any of the years following. “You” was even a person and they had a reflective cover, which sounds more like Highlights Magazine person of the year.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/53 "2013-12-12T03:46:38Z")

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> [@Cerealbox](#):
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> “You” was even a person and they had a reflective cover, which sounds more like Highlights Magazine person of the year.

Several years ago someone wrote a conspiracy piece about how Obama was really a middling student at Harvard and how he just got his prestige because he was black. Someone linked to it here, so I poked around to find out about the author. In his CV, the author included the note that he’d been Time’s Person of the Year.

You’ll never guess which year.

It may be the chutzpahziest thing I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![oliviawhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/5daacb/32.png) [@oliviawhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oliviawhat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/54 "2013-12-12T03:54:08Z")

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I’m not religious, but i do believe Pope Francis is the best contender for person of the year. His openness and acceptance of atheists and gays may seem like common sense for most, but it is pretty radical for the conservative catholic faith. Also, its pretty cool to hear the leader of a religion that so often condemns me to hell to openly say that i am not a bad person for my personal beliefs. Its not that i want or need the approval of religious people, but Its good to know that the leader of a religion that so often is dogmatic and patronizing towards those who are different is more open minded and accepting.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/55 "2013-12-12T04:04:19Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> who’s more willing to air things out; Miley or Francis?

According to documentary evidence, Miley’s willing to air out… all sorts of things… however, that doesn’t get one named Person of the Year.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/56 "2013-12-12T04:48:25Z")

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And just to point out, he becomes the third pope to be named _Time_’s Man of the Year, after Pope John XXIII in 1962 and Pope John Paul II in 1994.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/57 "2013-12-12T12:28:43Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> And just to point out, he becomes the third pope to be named _Time_’s Man of the Year, after Pope John XXIII in 1962 and Pope John Paul II in 1994.

Ratiznger… always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/58 "2013-12-12T14:31:59Z")

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I didn’t even know Kathleen Sebelius’s colon was in the running.

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/59 "2013-12-12T15:27:45Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> There are 1.2 Billion Catholics in the world. What appears to be an attempted paradigm shift in the church is huge. Snowden will soon be forgotten and what he did is transitory.

My reasoning was that he is elected and is 76 so his time as Pope will be short. Whether his reforms extend beyond his term was something I could not predict. I certainly hope they do, although I am not a Catholic.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-person-of-the-year/675921/60 "2013-12-12T16:23:16Z")

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Were all the people listed in the poll actually candidates? _Miley Fucking Cyrus!?!?_

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